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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #18 on: Friday 30 December 11 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank you again I now understand a bit more does anyone know the birth and death dates for Hera Te WHATAAWA or the names of her parents.

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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #19 on: Friday 30 December 11 23:33 GMT (UK) »
hmmm,



What info do you have on Obediah ?

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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #20 on: Friday 30 December 11 23:59 GMT (UK) »
Obadiah's parents were John NICHOLLS and Dorothy STEPHENS his brother Jeremiah was my 3GGrandfather and migrated to Australia. I have done the family tree

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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 31 December 11 03:34 GMT (UK) »
Parents details on reply 16

LDS has several entries..some conflicting info.eg one has death as 1915 and married to son
They are only submisions remember
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Sera Harete Hera Te Whakaawa Pedigree
  Female     
   
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Event(s):
 Birth:  About 1822   Bay Of Plenty, Auckland, New Zealand
 
 Christening: 
 Death:  About 1887   Bay Of Plenty, Auckland, New Zealand
 
 Burial:  About 1887   In A Maori Cemetery Near, Matamata, Auckland, New Zealand
 
Parents:
  Father:  Meroiti Or Ngapaea  Family
  Mother:  Haru     
 

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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 31 December 11 03:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you again for that as you may have guessed I am not in NZ and could not work out who the Father and Mother were.

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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 31 December 11 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Just thought it was worth a little more mention on maori Whakapapa
Please step in anyone reading wwith more info, I'm no expert just going from my experiences

When you wanted  Te Whakaawa ancestors..
Maori tribes and their respective marae's usually have very detailed lineages and all will be able to trace back to the time the arrived in New Zealand as a member of a respective Canoe. These details handed down by each generation, recited orally with the history attached..only late years did anything get written down..it was an oral language.

So the descents that you see,  names going down each generation are often only male lines..or they follow the male line..showing wife.  You don't always get a "family" surname, the name alters with generations and then from the time of European settlement the names are anglicised.
This doesn't go well for trying to put it into genealogy programmes like Legacy.

Marriages are a different concept..so there is no date as such, the religoius element is a very late inclusion

I've cheated, and bought a book that details the genealogy of my sons' maori ancestors!!!

so once you assign tribal affiliation, which from memory was mentioned in one of those obituaries..if you google the tribal name..there will be an iwi (tribe) website which will usually give you the genealogy for that group

Hope that makes a bit of sense
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althea

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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 31 December 11 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Althea .... it is something that I have been putting off since Mr KHP and I are non-Maori and I know I should at some stage make a start on my step-children's heritage (their late mothers side). 

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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 01 January 12 01:15 GMT (UK) »
Anothergenie ..

When and where did Obediah and Alice Nicholls die ?

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Re: William NICHOLLS & Hera Te WHAKAAWA
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 01 January 12 04:54 GMT (UK) »
Obadiah NICHOLLS died 1822 St Gluvias Cornwall England buried 9 Jan 1822 St Gluvias Church Cornwall England.

Alice GREY unfortunately we don't know other than born approx 1792
John NICHOLLS Obadiah's father died Aug 1825 Tresamble Downs Cornwall England buried 21 Aug 1825 Tresamble Down Cornwall

Dorothy STEPHENS died 1834 Frogpool St Luvins Cornwall England

John & Dorothy had 8 children

Hope that helps