Daniel MORAN b. 1864 in Route to US?? HELP!

[liverpool annie]

Civilian War Dead is when somebody got killed in the bombing.... My granddad was a Civilian War Dead and they come under the Commonwealth War Graves theres a certificate and pictures of the cemeteries etc - I was just checking in case your missing guys fought in  WW!!!   I'm up to the E morans right now - they usually give either parents names or wives names...!

Annie

PS 1841 they rounded to the 5's

[Chattykathy]

Annie,

Got it!  Think everybody in this group too old for WWII

Checked out the City of Richmond --  Also on the page was a Thos Moran Age 20  but no way to really link him to Martin. 

Also,  "City of Paris"  Arr in NY May 5, 1875  Martin Moran age 20
Farmer, seemingly traveling on his own  --  no other names that can be associated.

Tks for 1841 age rounding info --

bye bye
k

[liverpool annie]

No WW1 too !!

Annie

[liverpool annie]

wonder if they went on the Oregon Trail? look at the route...just the wrong year

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/WE-OregonTrail.html

Annie

[liverpool annie]

Girl -  found this in Leadville do you have it? I can't remember if this is within the time limit........came across it while I was looking for something else!!


Name:       Daniel Moran
Location 2:   706 e. 7th.
Occupation:   miner
Year:       1883
City:       Leadville
State:       CO

Annie

[Chattykathy]

Hey Annie! 

No I have not seen this before!  What is the source??  And what do you think "Location 2" means?

There were 2 other Morans (that'I've found, anyway) in Leadville who were Miners  ---  Martin b. 1850-ish and James (I think) b, 1870-ish living in a Miner's boarding house.  Both from Ireland.  Have made no connection yet  to our Daniel & Martin duo.   Will go back a double check details.

So maybe Daniel was taking @ stab at Mining before having the family to support and went into Tailoring??  Odd transition isn't it??   I know for a fact that in KCMO in 1910 he was a Tailor/Merchant.   The whole family is there then so there is no mistake in IDing him 'cause I know all the children's names from my Grandmother.

The more you know --  the more there is to know!!!

THANKS!

[liverpool annie]

Hi Kathy

Leadville was a hot town in those days -  people were becoming millioners over night -  silver and gold - seems to me they were following the money trail - look were they went -  they were looking to get rich quick -  the Daniel listing came from the Leadville directory (you know where -  sorry I forgot to note the year but I'll go back to it in a bit OK ) did you check out the route they took ?
hope you have another breakthrough today................ be happy!!

Annie

[Chattykathy]

Maybe he got a strike and used the money to set up the business. 

I've checked out the Overland, the Santa Fe and the Oregon Trails.   

Ruts from the Overland ran literally through our backyard in eastern Johnson Co. Kansas.   

Overland and Oregon overlap going north thru Nebraska.  Santa Fe takes a southerly direction after eastern KS.  Seems they followed water so that's why the Nebraska route --  also in the very early days --  the Pawnee and other hostile tribes ruled in western KS. 

By 1880's, Railroad system very developed --  so Anna and Annie the wives could have gone in relative comfort.

In 1900 when Daniel/Anna reversed the journey, if they had money --  could well have gone by train with all those children!

I think Daniel was an "adventurer"  Pretty sure I found him in Mass. working in shoe factory in 1880  ---  think he wasn't cut out for this and went West  to get rich.  Think Martin may have followed him  but Martin had a solid trade to put to use -- building!!

The 1890 Census would answer SO many question's wouldn't it!!! 

[liverpool annie]

I know -  I wish we had 1890 -  but I told you the other day I was thrilled to suddenly recognize the City Directories...!!

I have a question for you -  if you were looking for an architect in the US (no specific place...) between 1870-1900 where would you look? I've been in all the directories -  is there a specialized  occupation directory?
Annie