Charles Crossan and Helen Jane Mathieson

[Forfarian]

wondered if the two couples might be the same.

Looks quite likely. I can just about imagine Charles' Irish voice saying his mother was Eliza and the Glasgow registrar hearing it as Louisa.

[joemc]

Hi, I see 5 children born to Henry (Mc) Crossan and Eliza Bonar births registered at Long Tower RC church, Londonderry

Charles Crossan (1862)
James Crossan   (1864)
Ann Elizabeth McCrossan (1867)
Matilda Crossan (1869)
Henry McCrossan (1871)

Seemed not to matter very much whether or not the 'Mc' was used when registering births
The later 4 births also appear in the Civil records (Londonderry Urban NO1)

[Forfarian]

Thank you all for information about Charles Crossan's parentage.

Where might I see the original 1862 baptism record?

[joemc]

A copy of the church register is held on microfilm at PRONI,

 R.C. St Columb’s, Long Tower, Derry (Derry diocese)
Baptisms, 1823-6 and 1836-81; marriages, 1823-6,
1835-6 and 1841-63; deaths, 1863.
MIC1D/57

A transcription of the birth record can be viewed on line at http://derry.rootsireland.ie/

 to  view full record costs 5 € I believe (this will be transcription not copy of register)

Regards

[Forfarian]

Thank you! I have a friend who regularly goes to PRONI so I will ask him to have a look at it for me.

[LightNote]

Hi,
I am Charles & Helen Jane Crossan (Mathieson's) great grand daughter, on my mother's side. I've just started looking into our family tree. At the moment I have only a few details from my Mum about her Uncles and Aunts, Charles' and Helen's children.

Harold  (Harry Died 03.10.1942)
Bridget Crossan (Born 04.06.2011. Died age 76) 1 child
Charles (Charlie) 4 children
William. 1 child
Issabella (Bella). 9 children
Jean McCauley (Jinney) Married James McCauley. 9 children.
Annie Watson (Born 26.05.? Died 19.04.1978) Married Joe Watson. 6 children.
Lena  (Died aged 90) Married Alex McCafferty. 1 child.

I hope this is of interest to you. You mention that you have quite a bit of information about Helen Jane Mathieson. I have found out a little about her and her parents William and Penuel on scotlandspeople.gov.uk. Would you be able to share any other information about them or their family. It would be lovely to find out more.

What is your relationship to Charles and Helen?

[freyjg]

I have Isabella Francis Crossen  born 1906 died 1983, married to William McCafferty.  I think her parents possibly are Charles Crossen and Ellen Jane Mathison.  Does anyone have information on this?

[gaffy]

Civil birth record below confirms her name as Isabella Frances b. 2 April 1906, daughter of Charles Crossan and Helen Jane Mathison (presumably 'Bella' in the 1911 Ireland census return posted at reply #3):

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01740/1687314.pdf

[maryderry]

Isabella frances 2-4-1906 Ellen 27-12-1907. bridget 4-6-1911. William 20-7-1917.

parents Charles crossan ellen jane mathison.