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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 02 February 12 01:03 GMT (UK) »
Isaac King, a pauper, living with Susan ( but there are other Susans this the closest in age, so is this she?) and Francis who must be a Grandson although marked a son, just a few pages after Frank & Rebecca
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=549207
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=549157
gets younger every census  http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k2m/
Doesn't help your Goodine, but Isaac's family, parents Francis King & Mary Lucy seems to be the only visible King in Kingsclear, and a Benjamin on same page as Isaiah & Susan, and an Elias also on his own elsewhere
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/censusnb51/SplitView.jsp?id=6748, There should also be a Joseph, he shows up in later census
In 1881 she's a widow living with children ( a few houses before David & mary Goodine in case related as well)
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_915363

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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 02 February 12 13:37 GMT (UK) »
www.dioceseofsaintjohn.org

Under diocesan office, click archives, then archivist for the contact information.

Other option is to go to the contact section. Hopefully, they may have journals  of bmd's in the churches

The church, St. Anne's,  that burned was on the Kingsclear First Nations.

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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 02 February 12 17:41 GMT (UK) »
The church was used by anyone in the community...although it isn't old enough to have been there when the older families passed, that is where Frank was interred...St.Anne's churchyard
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 02 February 12 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Sorry not reply back on specific things, I do really appreciate all the help I am being given.. just a lot to read and take in!

I shall go through everything again now and see if there is anymore I can let you know!

Thanks again  ;)
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 02 February 12 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Came across a Toussaint Goodine on another tree who is born 1769 (no birth place) and marries a Madaline Tardiff in French Village, NB July 4 1798. Can anyone see any information that can connect this chap or not?

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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 02 February 12 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Godin, Toussaint dit Bellefontaine, 1769in Ekoupahag (French Vill), Nova Scotia (later NB), Died BEF 1851 in Kingsclear, York County, New Brunswick

This would tie in so beautifully with the Madeline in the household in 1852...however I have looked and looked and can't find anything that connects to your man...unless he was using a nickname or middle name... This site show the father of that Toussant, and goes way back to early Montreal then Nova Scotia
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=katheriot&id=I12581
and then here goes back to ***GODIN dit CHATILLON dit BELLEFONTAINE and even to France
http://www.acadian-roots.com/genealogy-godin.html
which all makes for interesting reading, and certainly could be that he is a descendant of one of them
( French Village is in Kingsclear, but also in Nova Scotia)

This is the FHS site that follows down the line ( a submission) but if you look at Toussant's link he is married to Madeline Tardiff, as you said, but none of the children match the name Asaiah. ( the unnamed child must have also been found as a death)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SG26-WL7

While I do believe Toussant fathered children until his seventies, I don't believe the mother could have, so having her age the same as his on the one site was likely contrived ...The Madeline on the census would have been around 50 when Isaih was born, not impossible, but certainly rare...although, again, people pulled ages out of a hat at census time, it seems...


***  dit is hard to explain, so will just send you here http://www.francogene.com/quebec/ditnames.php
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #24 on: Friday 03 February 12 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Baptism for Francis ....

Francis Godine
09 Apr 1856 age 2 months
Born of the lawful marriage of Isaah (sic?) Godine and Susana King
Sponsor Margaret Godine
St Dunstan Parish Church Fredricton

This appears to fit with the birthdate given by Frank in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.

I have been searching for a birth and/or marriage for Isaiah but no luck so far. To add to the problems, unlike Quebec, where the parents are given on the RC marriage records, the names of parents do not appear on the Acadian RC parish records. Added: have discovered the parents do appear on some but it isn't helping matters.

Added: Pure speculation at this point but the 76 year old Madaline who is in the household of Isaiah and Susan in the 1851 census is a good prospect for that 1798 marriage. It is really too bad the relationship was only given as L (probably Lodger?) for the elderly Godines ..... it would have been a tremendous help here to have something like mother, aunt, grandfather, whatever.
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #25 on: Friday 03 February 12 00:44 GMT (UK) »
More Pure speculation Penninah has also found something that might link the King family to Jean ROY dit Laliberte ( the Roy being anglicized ROI which is French for KING) This would make the family French metis, as he married an aboriginal woman. ( If the link ever proves to be true, but as it is right now, we are having enough trouble with the Goodine hunt!! )
Penninah's find was Joseph King who does show up in Kingsclear 1861 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQMY-6ZZ
and Francis King who could be the father https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MQMY-687
married to Elizabeth Goodine...

so check it out...Roy DNA?  http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NewBrunswick/2007-03/1173782931
 
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #26 on: Friday 03 February 12 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic thank you for the baptism record pb!

I have taken a good look at all those links JJ.. hopefully I can gleam some more from them.
I'm sure there is a clue in there somewhere!
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