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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 14:23 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if there is a pioneer cememtery. The older crosses/stones may not exist anymore, and this may jusst be partial transcripts of cemeteries, but Godin and it's dirivitives are few & aren't represented according to the great number within the Parish
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~damery/YO/Cem/StPatsCem/StPatricks-01.html
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~damery/YO/Cem/StPatsCem/StPatricks-02.html
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~damery/YO/Cem/StPatsCem/StPatricks-03.html
St. Ann's Parish Kingsclear, RR #6, Comp. 1, Site 4, Fredericton E3B 4X7
Two Suszan/ne died in 1909, this one matches age in 1851, image available to view, with no information to even prove it is she.
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 14:59 GMT (UK) »
Peter and family in 1881, next household Alexan c1815, then Susan & family already widowed and next household Edward c1815
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_915291
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_915293
There are some Goodine a few house before Peter ( widow Roseanne) and a few after Edward ( Augustus? c.1800)

I know you want backwards, but children and names are sometimes also a clue, we have very little as far as BMD info as seems not many were registered ...so maybe we can find other siblings who have more info
In 1901 if this your Peter he is a widow http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=8593&highlight=50 a Frank & Ida Goodine & child  on same page
next page in Peter's household, boarders ( sister Matila perhaps?) although she and the other boarder are surname Good..( note in 1871 there were Goodnie and Goodine all in on household)
and again Edward ( uncle?) next door
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 15:47 GMT (UK) »
So far no luck in here, ...found only a birth for one of Frank's children, his middle initial I perhaps father's name
http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141A2_2.aspx?culture=en-CA&guid=F36157EE-25FA-40B6-81DB-9A4EE5409D48 Use search at top left to look for more records...
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.. that all looks very interesting! I'm sure they are all relatives but hard to get a clear picture without any baptism records.
Francis/Frank Goodine is a direct interest as it is his daughter Susan whom I am tracing back through. I am guessing Francis has the middle name Isiah.
As well as Harry and Susan he and Rebecca had two other children that I am aware of, George 1892 and John Baptiste 1895.
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 February 12 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I see it was John B. who signed the death cert..and that Frank was buried St.Anne's churchyard...at least the newer certs had more information on them...That 138 yr old church was burned down in a fire recently http://atlantic.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111222/saint_anne_112211/20111222?hub=AtlanticHome
Frank also signed Julia's death cert in 1931...https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159392-99099-1?cc=1840147
Still trawling through online records hoping for a tidbit...
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 February 12 16:43 GMT (UK) »
The Tusaw (n?) (u?) in the 1851 census and the probable Tusaw in the 1861 census might be A Tousaint. The phonetic spelling of the French pronounciation of Tousaint would just about equate to something like Tusan(w).  There is a marriage in the NB parish records in 1863 for what s/b a much younger Tousaint Godine who may be related. No parental info is given.

Do you have the marriage info for Francis to Rebecca Trimm and Rebecca's baptism into the Roman Catholic church just prior to her marriage? Assuming this is the correct couple, her father's name is given on the baptism as Henry Trimm and her mother as Jane Lushau (w?).

You might find the Trimm family at this resource, in case you haven't looked already ...  http://ngb.chebucto.org/index.html

Francis and Rebecca have another child listed as Juley age 8 in the 1891 census and there is an unnamed child registerd to Frank Goodine and Betsey Trim  b. 21 Apr 1889.

I have so far been unsuccessful in a search for a birth for Frank and a marriage for Isaiah and Susan(ne?).
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 February 12 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both... I have more info on the Trimm's back to Newfoundland.
So we think it is Toussaint then? The French link can't be much further back if thats his name! And the surname is Gaudin..
There is this.. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true is this
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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 February 12 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Yeah we have to be careful hanging our hats on what that might be...far too loose at this point, we'll need more proof, because as I said it could also be Lazarre or even Lucent/ Lucien/ Lucen bad spelling and phonetics mean we must be cautious.
penninah that link in reply15 doesn't work...you need to use the newer site for urls to remain valid (One has to use an altogether different method to make the older site urls work)   https://www.familysearch.org/
You can find it there and modify the reply to erase the other url and replace with the new one

some directory listings...
http://yorksunburymuseum.wordpress.com/tag/french-village-kingsclear-first-nation/
http://yorksunburymuseum.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/page-130-500x96dpi.jpg

Also note that they seem to be using Goodine fully throughout many census, deaths, etc. The name derived from Godin perhaps from sheer necessity of postmen, doctors, etc. staying sane, when family numbers and same forenames is too much to bear for the community. Note too, family of Good after Francis in 1881 which may or may not have been a further shortening of the name...
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_915305

Frank is about 10 houses after Augutus (Augustus) see previous posting re:1881 census

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Re: Looking for more on this family... NEW BRUNSWICK
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 01 February 12 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Ahhh ok... ooops!

Yes, I know without proving one way or another its hard to be sure who is who.
Hopefully something will come out of the woodwork!
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