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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 01 February 12 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

Marriage George Waller Martin to Jessie Julia Pendle Sept 1904 Halstead 4a 1400

Cannot locate any birth for an Ellen b c 1865?

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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 02 February 12 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

Marriage George Waller Martin to Jessie Julia Pendle Sept 1904 Halstead 4a 1400

Cannot locate any birth for an Ellen b c 1865?

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Thanks for this, your finding them quicker than me  :D ;D

I looked on ancestry.co.uk for george waller matin and the marriage to jessie but i couldn't find it?
This was all i could find

• Phoebe PENDLE b.1811 d.1894
• John PENDLE b.1835 d.1906
• Emma PENDLE b.1835 d.1913
• Emma PENDLE b.1854 d.
• Nathan W PENDLE b. 1860 d.1949
• Ellen PENDLE b. 1865
• Allen Pendle b.1862 d.1871
• Edith PENDLE b.1858 d.1958
• Clara PENDLE b.1862 d.1952
• Wallace PENDLE b.1865 d 1937
• Leopold PENDLE b.1867 d.1951
• Alice PENDLE b.1869 d.1939
• Keturah PENDLE b.1872 d.1955
• Jessie PENDLE b.1875 d.1972

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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 February 12 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Yesterday i was quite chuffed when i found the Mother of John Pendle born 1835, Phoebe Pendle, She wasn't married and somehow John came along, she did however marry William Newton from Halstead and i guess thats the halstead connection. However using ancestry.co.uk i can't seem to go back any further than 1835 to find out more about Phoebe.

Anyone have any ideas or know where to look??

Thanks guys from a Beginner  ;)
• Phoebe PENDLE b.1811 d.1894
• John PENDLE b.1835 d.1906
• Emma PENDLE b.1835 d.1913
• Emma PENDLE b.1854 d.
• Nathan W PENDLE b. 1860 d.1949
• Ellen PENDLE b. 1865
• Allen Pendle b.1862 d.1871
• Edith PENDLE b.1858 d.1958
• Clara PENDLE b.1862 d.1952
• Wallace PENDLE b.1865 d 1937
• Leopold PENDLE b.1867 d.1951
• Alice PENDLE b.1869 d.1939
• Keturah PENDLE b.1872 d.1955
• Jessie PENDLE b.1875 d.1972

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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 February 12 16:09 GMT (UK) »
could this be Phoebe?

According to Familysearch:

Phebe was baptised 20 May 1815 in Dennington Suffolk to James and Elizabeth (nee Folkard)

James Pendle married Elizabeth Folkard at Dennington on 5 February 1802
APPLETON Harwich/Gravesend/Stepney
BRADLEY Bermondsey/Canning Town/Ilford, Essex
COLE/SALTWELL/DAVEY/MONK/RILEY/COPSEY/PAVET/BACON Navestock area Essex
CALLOW Dartford Kent/Deptford  RANDALL Greenwich/Deptford
DAVIS Ross/Stroud,Glos/West Ham, Essex
FENNING Durham, Sunderland  WELCH -Greenwich/Poplar
PALMER Rotherhithe/Deptford/West Ham/Ilford
LANGDALE E London/Deptford  HERITAGE Rotherhithe/Bermondsey
VIZARD Bermondsey/Shoreditch  TURNER Liverpool/Chatham

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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 February 12 16:21 GMT (UK) »
could this be Phoebe?

According to Familysearch:

Phebe was baptised 20 May 1815 in Dennington Suffolk to James and Elizabeth (nee Folkard)

James Pendle married Elizabeth Folkard at Dennington on 5 February 1802


It may well be do we have a date of birth because by my records she would of been 4 years old?? Plus the name is spelt Phebe, whereas mine is Phoebe ?? Might be a typo??
• Phoebe PENDLE b.1811 d.1894
• John PENDLE b.1835 d.1906
• Emma PENDLE b.1835 d.1913
• Emma PENDLE b.1854 d.
• Nathan W PENDLE b. 1860 d.1949
• Ellen PENDLE b. 1865
• Allen Pendle b.1862 d.1871
• Edith PENDLE b.1858 d.1958
• Clara PENDLE b.1862 d.1952
• Wallace PENDLE b.1865 d 1937
• Leopold PENDLE b.1867 d.1951
• Alice PENDLE b.1869 d.1939
• Keturah PENDLE b.1872 d.1955
• Jessie PENDLE b.1875 d.1972

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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 February 12 16:37 GMT (UK) »
That's all the information on there. Maybe you can get someone to look up the actual register.

Have a look at ancestry 1861 census Pendle families living in Dennington

1) James Pendle born 1806 married to Elizabeth

2) Charles Pendle age ? (actually he is crossed out, not sure what that means) married to Harriet with a son James aged 23

On familysearch there is a baptism of James in 1 apr 1838 to Charles Pendle and Harriet Woolnough (might be no.2 above) but I can't find that marriage on familysearch.

There is also a baptism of James 10 Feb 1839 to James Pendle and Elizabeth Chapman - they married 12 Oct 1826 so might be no.1 above.

I hope I am not leading you astray... it doesn't sound straightforward

APPLETON Harwich/Gravesend/Stepney
BRADLEY Bermondsey/Canning Town/Ilford, Essex
COLE/SALTWELL/DAVEY/MONK/RILEY/COPSEY/PAVET/BACON Navestock area Essex
CALLOW Dartford Kent/Deptford  RANDALL Greenwich/Deptford
DAVIS Ross/Stroud,Glos/West Ham, Essex
FENNING Durham, Sunderland  WELCH -Greenwich/Poplar
PALMER Rotherhithe/Deptford/West Ham/Ilford
LANGDALE E London/Deptford  HERITAGE Rotherhithe/Bermondsey
VIZARD Bermondsey/Shoreditch  TURNER Liverpool/Chatham

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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #15 on: Friday 03 February 12 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much I think the problem with the pendles is that they keep using the same names over different generations and thats where it gets confusing Phoebe Pendle was born on 1811, so i don't think that the james and elizabeth could fit in the same generation, Seems relateded but because of the ages i don't think James could of been Phoebe's father, he would of only been 5 years old, It may well be her Brother, That would make more sense, So all i need to find out is who is the father of james  ::)

This is harder than it looks  ;D
• Phoebe PENDLE b.1811 d.1894
• John PENDLE b.1835 d.1906
• Emma PENDLE b.1835 d.1913
• Emma PENDLE b.1854 d.
• Nathan W PENDLE b. 1860 d.1949
• Ellen PENDLE b. 1865
• Allen Pendle b.1862 d.1871
• Edith PENDLE b.1858 d.1958
• Clara PENDLE b.1862 d.1952
• Wallace PENDLE b.1865 d 1937
• Leopold PENDLE b.1867 d.1951
• Alice PENDLE b.1869 d.1939
• Keturah PENDLE b.1872 d.1955
• Jessie PENDLE b.1875 d.1972

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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #16 on: Friday 03 February 12 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, can I just ask where you got the birth of Phoebe from of 1811, a census return?
 A baptism could be years after the actual birth, also Scrabbles James and Elizabeth for Phebe 1815
,are not the same as the 1861 couple?

There is a Phoebe b 1835 who is the daughter of the James and Elizabeth mentioned by Scrabble re 1861, shown as Pendell in 1841 census ref HO107/1025/9/13

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Re: The Pendles From Halstead
« Reply #17 on: Friday 03 February 12 21:13 GMT (UK) »
There is a Phoebe b 1835 who is the daughter of the James and Elizabeth mentioned by Scrabble re 1861, shown as Pendell in 1841 census ref HO107/1025/9/13

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Her Son John was born in 1835, so i know its not that Phoebe, in fact its spelt phebe, and i know its not a typo as it appears he same in quite a few records, i'll look back at my records and post where i got the 1811 date  ;)

Here we go  from the 1971 census

Name: Phoebe Newton
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Hangleton, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Halstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Halstead
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Halstead
Sub-registration district: Halstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 9
Piece: 1697
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
• Phoebe PENDLE b.1811 d.1894
• John PENDLE b.1835 d.1906
• Emma PENDLE b.1835 d.1913
• Emma PENDLE b.1854 d.
• Nathan W PENDLE b. 1860 d.1949
• Ellen PENDLE b. 1865
• Allen Pendle b.1862 d.1871
• Edith PENDLE b.1858 d.1958
• Clara PENDLE b.1862 d.1952
• Wallace PENDLE b.1865 d 1937
• Leopold PENDLE b.1867 d.1951
• Alice PENDLE b.1869 d.1939
• Keturah PENDLE b.1872 d.1955
• Jessie PENDLE b.1875 d.1972