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Offline pete edwards

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« on: Friday 13 May 05 19:04 BST (UK) »
Hi all
trying to find the birth details of my g g grandfather THOMAS EDWARDS b ab 1832
Cound,Shropshire.
From what I can make out on the 1851 census discs he is living at home with his
brother charles, father George and mother Sarah.
If I had a copy of his birth certificate would this show me his mothers maiden name?
I have the English parish records on disc from about 1540 (fascinating reading)
and found a marriage between George Edwards and Sarah rowe in 1808 in Cound
Thomas married  Ellen Litthales of Berrington approx 1856 but I cant trace any
certificate anywhere
any help on this would be much appreciated
many thanks peter
p.s please excuse the typing ,being a plumber I have no need of a keyboard.
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Re: edwards
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 May 05 19:14 BST (UK) »
The registration of births didn't start until  1837 - so he wouldn't have a birth certificate with his mothers maiden name.

Did he have any siblings born after 1837 ?  It is often worth searching for a brother or sisters birth certificate - sometimes you have to go sideways before you can go backwards !
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Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

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Re: edwards
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 May 05 20:08 BST (UK) »
Hi
many thanks Kathym
As far as I can make out  he had a older brother. Charles B ab 1828 (cant find)
1851 census
George Edwards  Head ab 57 married ag/lab  born Cound
Sarah   (nee?)      wife  ab 60                           born Cound
Thomas Edwards  son  ab 22  u/m     ag/lab    born Cound
charles edwards  son  ab 24 u/m       ag/lab   born cound
Anne edwards   niece 11 years neice               Coundmoor
Emma edwards  niece 1 year    neice                  Cound
This is all that I know to date
best regards pete.
Edwards, mainly Cound, Frodesely, Acton Burnell. Pitchford. and surrounding villages, Shropshire, /  Rowe, Cound, / Littlehales, Berrington, Shropshire / Radford, Dublin, /   Maguire, Acton Burnell, /  Rudge, Frodesely, /

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Re: edwards
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 May 05 08:53 BST (UK) »
In 1861 - Sarah's age is given as 76 -the ages could be a bit out !!!

1861 at Cound Moor   (RG9/1861/34

Sarah EDWARDS   76   Widow   Dowager - 1 3/4 acres   B: Cound
Charles Edwards  35   son       Farm Lab                                 "



1861 - at Frodesley - (RG9/1861/67)

Thomas Edwards   33  Head   Ag Lab     B: Cound
Ellen Edwards        26  wife                         Berrington
James Edwards       3   son                          Frodesley
George Edwards     1   son                          Cound


I can't find a marriage either - but then again - I can't find ANYTHING for the name LITTHALES - are youi sure this the right spelling......

Maybe she had a speech impediment - and her name was Littles !

Also - is there a possibility that they were RC ?

On the LDS website, there is a family baptised at - Acton Burnell - children of George Edwards & Sarah  (Still written in the Latin form)

Martha 1809
Joannes 1811
Margerita  1816
Jacobus  1821
Carolus   1824  (Charles)
Thomas   1829
Emma  1830


This would fit in with the Sarah Rowe marriage

 Have you found George's death certificate ?
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Ardill,  Bourke/Burke, Bellwood, Bridge, Cain, Church, Cragg,  Dennell, Dunning, Gough, Haslam, Holmes, Jessop, Kidson/Kitson, Knowles, Markwick, Martin, Munden, Nickerson, Robinson,  Seddon, Whittle, Varley & Walpole.

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Re: edwards
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 May 05 13:48 BST (UK) »
So sorry Kathym
you were right I have giving you the wrong spelling, it should read LITTLEHALES
according to the English parish records disc, the marriage of George Edwards
and Sarah Rowe both Cound in 1808 produced a daughter Margret b 1808
(assuming this to be the George and Sarah in the 51 census?) this would make
her the older sister of Thomas
do you think it is worth my while trying to trace her?
being new to this hobby I have never giving it a thought before but now I am starting to realise how archiac our boundry systems are
Many thanks for the 61 look up it is the only year I am missing back to 51
Kind regards Pete
Edwards, mainly Cound, Frodesely, Acton Burnell. Pitchford. and surrounding villages, Shropshire, /  Rowe, Cound, / Littlehales, Berrington, Shropshire / Radford, Dublin, /   Maguire, Acton Burnell, /  Rudge, Frodesely, /

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Re: edwards
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 May 05 02:32 BST (UK) »
Pete

The 1841 census entry could confirm Sarah was Sarah Rowe although no relationships are listed (ages are rounded up or down to the nearest 5 years for adults depending on the enumerator):

HO107/910 Folio 18 Page 5.  Cound Moor
George EDWARDS, 50, Ag Lab, born Shropshire
Sarah EDWARDS, 50, born Shropshire
James EDWARDS, 20, Ag Lab, born Shropshire
Thomas EDWARDS, 13, Ag Lab, born Shropshire
Mary EDWARDS, 20, born Shropshire
Margaret ROWE, 80, born Shropshire

Hope that helps.

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Karen
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Re: edwards
« Reply #6 on: Friday 10 January 20 21:06 GMT (UK) »
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Cound.html

Rowe 16 matches

1788 Dec. 21. Sarah, d. of Thos. & Margaret Rowe ... bap.

1786 July 2. John, s. of Thos. & Margaret Roe, born June 22nd ... bap.

Roe 68 matches


1841 census     HO107/910 Folio 18 Page 5.  Cound Moor

George EDWARDS, 50, Ag Lab, born Shropshire
Sarah EDWARDS, 50, born Shropshire
James EDWARDS, 20, Ag Lab, born Shropshire
Thomas EDWARDS, 13, Ag Lab, born Shropshire
Mary EDWARDS, 20, born Shropshire
Margaret ROWE, 80, born Shropshire                           


Sarah wife of George Edwards, daughter of Margaret Rowe from the 1841 census.
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Re: edwards
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 January 20 19:11 GMT (UK) »
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/KZ5R-9ZX/george-edwards-1786


George Edwards
1786-
1786
 
Christening   •   1 Sources
24 December 1786
Uffington, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom
 



Thomas Edwards
1755-1841
Marriage: 26 Apr 1776       24 children are listed
Place unknown
Jane Perks
Jane Perks
1758-1815



Jane Perks
1758-1815
1758
 
Birth   •   0 Sources
27 August 1758
Frodesley, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom
1815
Age 56
Death   •   0 Sources
24 January 1815
Bewdley, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom



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1755, April 1. Thomas Perks, b., & Anne Davies, sp ... mar.

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