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Unidentified early English lawn tennis players
« on: Sunday 05 February 12 15:17 GMT (UK) »
I have a few early English lawn tennis players, some of whose first name and family name I know, but that's all I know about them. If anyone could help me finding some basic biographical information for them, that would be great.
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One is the male player C.H.A. Ross, who took part in some tournaments mainly in the mid-1880s. I've no idea where he's from, although he was definitely English.
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Another is a William C. Taylor, who might well have been from London. He first took part in a tennis tournament around 1883. He played at Wimbledon quite a lot. But there are lots of William C. Taylors in the English censuses and it's impossible to link his name with the word tennis.
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Margaret Bracewell had some success at tennis tournaments in the mid-1880s. I've no idea where she was from, although she was English. Had a sister, G. Bracewell (first name not known).
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Like Margaret Bracewell, Edith Davies had some success at a few of the early tournaments, in the 1880s. But there are lots of Edith Davises in the censuses and I couldn't find a link to tennis for any Edith Davis.
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Mildred Coles took part in a lot of tournaments at the beginning of the twentieth century and married a Mr Davis, I think, circa 1914, but I couldn't find anything else out about her. She had a tennis-playing sister known only as J. Coles.
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Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mark



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Re: Unidentified early English lawn tennis players
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 February 12 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Well to start you off, here is some info about C. H. A. Ross - it seems he was more of a cricketer than tennis player.

Charles Hoadley Ashe Ross
b. 22 Jul 1852, Bath, Somerset
d. 5 Feb 1911, Hove, Sussex

See http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/player/19827.html

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Re: Unidentified early English lawn tennis players
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 February 12 17:44 GMT (UK) »
^^^^ Hi, Alexander,

Thanks very much for the information on Charles Ross. I had suspected his first name was Charles, but had no concrete proof. A number of the early lawn tennis players did play cricket and other sports.

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 February 12 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Looking for Charles H A Ross on 1861

Best possibility i can come up with is under Norman, with a Ross rellie!
RG9 423 153 10
Crouch Oak Rd Chertsey Surrey
Charles B Norman 36 propietor of houses bn Somerset Congresbury
Frances 36 wife bn Devonshire Topham
Frances 10 dtr bn Surrey Kingston on Thames
Charles H R (or H A?) 9 son bn CLeveden Somerset
Cecil B 7 son bn Exeter
Henrietta A 5 dtr bn Exeter
Emma 1 dtr bn Ealing
Augusta Ross 30 unm sister bn Topham Devon

MAy well not be him, would need more investigation
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Unidentified early English lawn tennis players
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Looking for Charles H A Ross on 1861

Best possibility i can come up with is under Norman, with a Ross rellie!
RG9 423 153 10
Crouch Oak Rd Chertsey Surrey
Charles B Norman 36 propietor of houses bn Somerset Congresbury
Frances 36 wife bn Devonshire Topham
Frances 10 dtr bn Surrey Kingston on Thames
Charles H R (or H A?) 9 son bn CLeveden Somerset
Cecil B 7 son bn Exeter
Henrietta A 5 dtr bn Exeter
Emma 1 dtr bn Ealing
Augusta Ross 30 unm sister bn Topham Devon

MAy well not be him, would need more investigation

Thanks for your reply and the information. That could well be the 9-year-old C.H.A. Ross. It's very difficult to find him because there are so many Charles Rosses in the censuses. However, I have enough basic info on him now.

William (C.) Taylor is even more difficult to find because there were so many William Taylors and it is virtually impossible to link any of them to lawn tennis, cricket or a similar sport.

Mark
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Looking at FreeBMD receals a surprising number of births of Margaret Bracewells who could be of tennis playing age in the 1880's. They are all from either Yorkshire or Lancashire - so I guess that is where 'your' one originates from.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Unidentified early English lawn tennis players
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Re Mildred Coles, I see she married in London and doesnt use a middle name at marriage.
Most of the Mildrd Coles's around seem to have middle names.
But there is one bn Oct/NOv/Dec 1881 in Camberwell, that doesnt.
In 1891 census she is at RG12 542 88 18, aged 9, living in Carshalton (indexed Cale) - Dad is Edward an India Rubber manufacturer, and mum is Elizabeth, and they keep a reasonable household of staff - so possibly the sort of family that would play tennis.

In 1901 they continue to go up in the world - RG13 624 68 22 now living at "Pebblecombe" Walton on the Hill. I am sure "Pebblecombe" must have had a tennis court!

Getting her marriage cert to see if Edward the India Rubber person is her Dad would confirm if this is her, or if this one can be ruled out.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Unidentified early English lawn tennis players
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Re Mildred Coles, I see she married in London and doesnt use a middle name at marriage.
Most of the Mildrd Coles's around seem to have middle names.
But there is one bn Oct/NOv/Dec 1881 in Camberwell, that doesnt.
In 1891 census she is at RG12 542 88 18, aged 9, living in Carshalton (indexed Cale) - Dad is Edward an India Rubber manufacturer, and mum is Elizabeth, and they keep a reasonable household of staff - so possibly the sort of family that would play tennis.

In 1901 they continue to go up in the world - RG13 624 68 22 now living at "Pebblecombe" Walton on the Hill. I am sure "Pebblecombe" must have had a tennis court!

Getting her marriage cert to see if Edward the India Rubber person is her Dad would confirm if this is her, or if this one can be ruled out.

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. Mildred Coles the tennis player had a sister whose first name began with "J." and who also played tennis. Mildred married a Mr Davis.

Mark
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 12:15 GMT (UK) »
The last (sixth) person listed in your opening post seems likely still to be alive, according to information available online.  I will send you a PM, but you may wish to delete or anonymise that part of the post given Rootschat's rules about not posting identifying information about living people.
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