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VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« on: Friday 13 May 05 22:09 BST (UK) »
This is my first posting to your list and was wondering if some kind sole
could look up 1841/1851 Census for the VANSCHAGEN family. I have only just
come across this family in my tree and have them in 1861 as
GEORGE FRANCIS ISAAC PAUL VANSCHAGEN born 1818 St Pancras, London - married
to Martha BATES nee (Fensom) born abt 1809 - Luton
Children
Charles born 1849 - Luton
In 1871 Charles had married Sarah (born Luton) and had a son Henry born 1869
Luton.
As this is an unusual name any information would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Patricia
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Re: VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 December 05 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Patricia - if you are still looking ???

In 1851 there's a George VANSCHAGER b 1818 St Pancras Middlesex , living in  Adelaide Terrace, Luton Beds, with wife Martha age 42, daughter Sarah age 3 & son Charles age 1. George is a Blacksmith.

regards John
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Re: VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 December 05 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi John
Thank you for this, since posting the message I did find them in 1851 but would love to find him in1841 - Still looking
Regards
Patricia
Taylor - Birmingham - Cardiff
Hedley - Northumberland - Swansea - Cardiff
Amyes - Norfolk
Spanton - Norfolk
Ash - Isle of wight
Baggs - Hampshire
Clisett - Monmouthshire - Worcester
Flynn - Ireland
Madley - Llandogo, Monmouthshire
McNaughton - Northumberland
Quick - Somerset - Wales
Watts - Devon - Somerset - Cardiff

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Re: VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 December 05 03:43 GMT (UK) »
my madien name was vanschagen i have never found any one else with this name and i am just trying to find any info on this name.
thanks .
suzanne

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Re: VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 December 05 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Suzanne
We must have a connection somewhere. I am researching all Vanschagen's and have quite a few in my tree. I start with George as you can see from previous e-mails. Charles Edward his son had nine children all born Luton one of his daughters Mary Ann married a Robert Cox in 1896 and then left him for George Williams and had a daughter Agnes Gertrude Cox who is my family line.
Would you like to share your parents and grandparents names and dates and see if we connect.
Would love to here from you.
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Patricia
Taylor - Birmingham - Cardiff
Hedley - Northumberland - Swansea - Cardiff
Amyes - Norfolk
Spanton - Norfolk
Ash - Isle of wight
Baggs - Hampshire
Clisett - Monmouthshire - Worcester
Flynn - Ireland
Madley - Llandogo, Monmouthshire
McNaughton - Northumberland
Quick - Somerset - Wales
Watts - Devon - Somerset - Cardiff

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Re: VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 December 05 01:52 GMT (UK) »
Have another look on the free BMD...some of this family have their name spelt without the 'c' in the middle... :D

Charles Marsham VANSHAGEN b 1845 [Luton]
Herbert Smith VANSHAGEN married 1894 [Luton]
Sarah VANSHAGEN married 1896 [Luton]

There was also a Charlotte VANSHAGEN who died in 1841 over in Ware district [of Hertfordshire]
Bedfordshire: Worker [Flitton]; Ames [Kempston]; Manton [Kempston]; Morris [?]; Valentine [Kempston]; Two & Osborn [Cranfield]

Herfordshire and West London: Brown [Kent in early 19th C]; Blackwell.
McCarthy [Clonakilty, County Cork - searching for needles in the haystack!] and LOSTY [Dublin]

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Re: VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 December 05 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Cathy
Don't know about the Charles Marsham but had the two marriages.
I think the Charlotte who died in 1841 is the wife of Issaic Paul. Will search the Ware District.
Regards
Patricia
Taylor - Birmingham - Cardiff
Hedley - Northumberland - Swansea - Cardiff
Amyes - Norfolk
Spanton - Norfolk
Ash - Isle of wight
Baggs - Hampshire
Clisett - Monmouthshire - Worcester
Flynn - Ireland
Madley - Llandogo, Monmouthshire
McNaughton - Northumberland
Quick - Somerset - Wales
Watts - Devon - Somerset - Cardiff

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Re: VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 December 05 20:59 GMT (UK) »
It is an unusual name but it seems to be spelt a number of ways!

Three more are I can see - from Holborn & Luton are:

VANSCHAGN
VANKAGEN
VANKEGAN

There is a reference to a marriage of John VAN SCHAGENs marriage in 1753 in the Norfolk Archives and a reference to his business partner 'John CROUCH of Amsterdam' too [please see the A2A catalogue on-line]

I have tried a number of spellings of that name but cant seem to find any of that family who fought in the First WW which indicates how rare the name is
Bedfordshire: Worker [Flitton]; Ames [Kempston]; Manton [Kempston]; Morris [?]; Valentine [Kempston]; Two & Osborn [Cranfield]

Herfordshire and West London: Brown [Kent in early 19th C]; Blackwell.
McCarthy [Clonakilty, County Cork - searching for needles in the haystack!] and LOSTY [Dublin]

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Re: VANSCHAGEN LUTON 1841/1851
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 September 10 00:41 BST (UK) »
I know this thread started nearly 5 years ago but  I also have these people on my family tree, so if Patricia "pat236" is still around or contactable I'd like to swap information.
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Regards
Paul