Bambrough Family

[TraceyJ]

Hi Alli

This is my family, I can remember the people now you have named them, thank very much this is great news.

Warm regards

Tracey.

[allibaker]

anything else you want help with? i have grandparents marriage if it helps?

[TraceyJ]

Yes please, any information is very welcome.

Many thanks

Tracey

[allibaker]

albert bamborough married elizabeth bainbridge march qtr 1922 easington
have sent you a private message
regards
alli

[ealdred]

sorry to interupt but since i'm here checking after getting notice of reply to topic could i just ask does anyone know if the bambrough (&/or the forster) line(s) connect/s with the Northumbrian royal house/s? I done some work on the genealogies of that house but can't bridge the gap between 1000s and 1700s unless/until i'm able to do paid research thru mormons or other. You can see my dozen genealogical lines posted in my blog (site link in my forum profile page). (There were 3 or 4 mistakes where i didn't bracket brothers/sisters. I have to post corrected update, but depends as I was/still? having net/web problems.) Otherwise i'm stumped who the "german/prussian prince" could be?

also does anyone know anything about queen Bebba/Quenburh that could help? My father reckons that he saw book or web/net sources saying that she (Bebba, or Bearnoch? or Ebba? or Seaxburh?) had missing years and a 2nd marriage and a daughter named [Fela?], but I've searched and searched the web/net and can't find anything about such a daughter (unless he meant Ebba) etc.

also does anyone have any info about the "white bear" and the "house of the bear"?

ps sorry re my last post, i reread all the topic/thread posts/pages and saw that there had been given info about the daughter isabella which confimred that the isabel of fellside was indeed Forster not archer/maugham, and i confirmed that the birth/marriage dates were close match.

[ealdred]

Hello again. I am trying to find how Matthew Wilson Bambrough (+ Ann Ellen Bambrough 1920-1995) connects back in with my ancestral line (since both our families have a same family tradition/tale). (Also interested in if/how Matthew Bambrough (+ Isabella Cowell) are related?) I probably could find out if i keep searching, but i only have dialup and it takes alot of time and effort searching out and looking up web pages, and i can only access free pages at present.

10 Thomas Bambrough (1670) + Ann Hood.
9 Thomas Bambrough (1704) + Margaret Nixon
8 Thomas Bambrough (1721-1800) + Margaret Jenning(s) (m ca 1755)
7 John Bambrough (b 1755) + Isabel Fo(r)ster of Fellside (1753?, 1778, d 1814)
6 John Bambrough (1787) + Dorothy Storey (1817-1841)
(married same time as Matthew Bamborough + Isabella Cowell 1817)
5 William Bambrough (1820) + Elizabeth Beylass
(brother Matthew John Bambrough + Mary Jane Dixon)
4 William A Bambrough (1851) + Ann Swallow (1873)
3 James Bambrough (1887-1918) + Margaret B Newman
2 William E Bambrough (1901/1910-1984) + Ruby C Wildermoth
1 my father + my mother
0 me Sean.

[ealdred]

Ok this is as far back as i have been able to get so far. The tree in the last post is my tree. This is the 2nd tree i am trying to find where it links back in to mine:

{5 Matthew Bambourgh b1832 + Jane Gray/Bambrough b1833, m c 1860
4 William (John) Bambrough 1860-1940 (sister Margaret B)
+ Mary Ann ("Polly") (Cundy/-)Eastlake/Bambbrough b1854 Plymouth Devon, m1886
3 Wilson William Bambrough 1885-13 Dec 1955 (siblings Geo Bam 1879, Marg Ann Bam)
+ Jane Bambrough
2 Matthew (Wilson) Bambrough 1909-1981
(sisters Mary Ann Alice Fergusson nee Bambrough, Lilian Jane Firmager nee Bambrough)
(brother in Amble)
(1st wife Kitty/Caroline Kersink)
+ Ann Ellen Bambrough 1920-1995 (2nd wife)
1 (Z)SB + GB
0 SB}


It is strange similarity between Matthew c1831 (married (Mary) Jane Dixon) in my tree and Matthew c1832 (married Jane Gray) in this related tree, but doesn't seem they are the same.

Can anyone help with the father of this Matthew Bambourgh b1832 who married Jane Gray/Bambrough?

[ealdred]

I'm quitting the Bambrough line quest as it is now too difficult and too time consuming etc and it is not worth it anyway just to find out who a very minor (& distant?) prince is. But here are my rough notes or lists if they are of any use/interest to anyone. http://iwillnotbeassimilated.blogspot.co.nz/p/bambrough.html
Sean.
p.s. any help with being able to shift to UK would be good.

[ealdred]

I've found out that there is a contradiction in sources and am not sure which is right. I now have two different alleged lines of descent as follows:

11. Thomas Bambrough + Ann Hood b 1669
10. Thomas Bambrough 1703 + Margaret Nixon 1705
9. Thomas Bambrough 1721-1800 + Margaret Jennings 1725-1762
8. John Bambrough b 1754/1755 + Isabel Forster of Fellside 1753 (m 1755/1781?)
7. John Bambrough 1786/1787/1788/1789 + Dorothy Storey (m 1817)
6. William Bambrough 1820 + Elizabeth Beylass
5. William Bambrough 1851 + Ann Swallow (m 1873)
4. James Bambrough 1887-1918 + Margaret Beatrice Newman 1886-1928/1931 (m 1908)
3a. William Ernest (Laurence) Bambrough 1910-1984 + Ruby Constance Wildermoth 1911/1912-1979 (m 1934 NZ)
(3b. William Ernest Bambrough + Anne Patience Mcleman 1931-1984)
(2a. K... G... Bambrough (my father) + J... A... Wright)
2b. K... G... Bambrough (my father) + Jennifer Mary "Edwards" 1946-2020
1. S... W... Bambrough (me).

8. John Bambrough 1753-1833 + Elizabeth 1765
7. William Bambrough 1794-1876 + Margaret Thompson 1801-1863 (m 1819 Durham)
6. James Bambrough 1825-1888 + Dorothy Heslop 1830-1900 (m 1850 Durham)
5. William A Bambrough 1851-1916 + Ann Swallow 1850-1904 (m 1873 Durham)
4. James Bambrough 1888-1918 + Margaret Beatrice Newman 1886-1931 (m 1908)
3a. William Ernest (Laurence) Bambrough 1910-1984 + Ruby Constance Wildermoth 1911/12-1979 (m 1934 NZ)
(3b. William Ernest Bambrough + Anne Patience Mcleman 1931-1984)
(2a. K... G... Bambrough (my father) + J... A... Wright)
2b. K... G... Bambrough (my father) + Jennifer Mary "Edwards" 1946-2020
1. S... W... Bambrough (me).

Which just goes to show I have to be more careful with my sources etc. Unfortunately I am not able to go buying all the birth certificates etc which makes it less easy to have proof of parentage etc. The second one version is from Mormon site.

(In the first version I had difficulty finding out the surname of Isabel of Fellside. There were three records of Isabels of Fellisde marrying a John Bambrough in roughly the same year. Isabel Archer, Isabel Maugham, Isabel Forster.)

I still can't see/find any "Prussian prince" or "German prince" anywhere in my grandfather's ancestry, nor any marine engineer, as supposed in our family tradition. I think it must be wrong/fictitious. Except that Shauny Bambrough from Northumberland said they have the same prince tradition in their family too, which makes me think/feel there must be something to it. My father said his father told him we are descended from a "Prussian prince" or "German prince" via a marine engineer. I have thought maybe "German" was a mistake for Germanic/Teutonic Anglo-Saxon Bernician/Deiran Northumbrian Angle, but it doesn't seem likely. The genealogical sites only seem to go back to 1600s and not any earlier. Recently I wondered if my grandfather's middle name Ernest might point to the Saxon/Thuringian Ernestine Wettins but I can't find any link. About 10 years ago I met at a group meeting a lady here in NZ who once came from the UK, and when I mentioned the Prussian/German prince story she thought it might be the dwarf Polish Count Joseph Boruwlaski who was in Northumberland, but I can't see any link there.

I once found in google search a page in a genealogical site with photos etc with some woman who married a Bambrough which looked like it might be the German/Prussian link but I can't remember her name and can't find it searching again, and since google changed their search to worse than it was before I can't find it in my search history. I think she had some name like Isobel or Lutetia or something.