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Offline anglostark

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Greenwood Family
« on: Saturday 11 February 12 21:29 GMT (UK) »
Looking for further information on the Greenwood family.....here is what I have so far :

Thomas Greenwood and Sarah Elliot had -

Joseph Greenwood (b. abt 1828) who married Isabella Barr (b. abt 1837) on the 9 Nov 1854 in Loughgall, County Armagh.

Joseph and Isabella had 8 children. The first two, Thomas (b. abt 1856) and John (b. abt 1858) were born in Ireland and the remaining 6 were born in Scotland.

All dates have been taken from death certs, birth certs and Census returns.

If anyone can help with more information or suggestions, that will be great.

Thanks Steven
Campbell - Perthshire
Greenwood - Ayrshire/Ireland
Wilson - Ayrshire
Dowie - Fife/Perthshire
Watt - Dundee

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Re: Greenwood Family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 March 12 09:39 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for? It might be hard to trace back beyond Thomas Greenwood but you might be able to get back a bit more. It helps that it's an unusual name in the area. I think you can safely assume that any Greenwoods in Loughgall Parish were related to you. I can see abstracts on familysearch.org of marriages of other Greenwoods in Loughgall with a father named Thomas so those families might be interesting to you? Do you have the full Greenwood/Barr civil marriage registration? That should give you townlands and occupations which is really important.

I found another thread on this site with mention of your Greenwoods:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=q0jee1sqc8e83gie6obslbvlr1&topic=455197.0

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Re: Greenwood Family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 March 12 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat, Steven. I think your Greenwoods were more likely to be from Co. Antrim than Armagh. There is a Loughall in North Antrim and the other thread mentioned in above post indicates Antrim as well. Where did you get Armagh from?
Do you know what religion Joseph and Isabella were? civil registration of Catholic marriages started in 1864 but other marriages from 1845.
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Re: Greenwood Family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 March 12 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for both getting back to me, I'm just trying to get back as far as I can with this family.

The only documents that I have relating to the marriage of Joseph and Isabella Barr are from their children's birth, marriage and death certs.

Antrim or Armagh ?? The only evidence for them being from Armagh is from the following children's birth certs. I don't have certs for the other siblings but from the evidence below, I presumed that Armagh was the correct location .

Birth Cert for David b. 16 Apr 1863 states parents marriage - 1854 November 10th, Loughgall, Co. of Armagh, Ireland

Birth Cert for Joseph b. 9 Dec 1872 states parents marriage - 1854 November 9th, Loughgall, Co. Armagh, Ireland

Birth Cert for Isabella b. 26 Sep 1877 states parents marriage - 1854 November 11th, Parish of Loughgall, Ireland

I am from Scotland and I am not sure how to go about viewing on-line or getting copies of Northern Irish certificates

As for their religion, Joseph and Isabella's children, that I have certs for, were married in the Established Church of Scotland or the Free Church of Scotland.
Campbell - Perthshire
Greenwood - Ayrshire/Ireland
Wilson - Ayrshire
Dowie - Fife/Perthshire
Watt - Dundee

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Re: Greenwood Family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 March 12 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Northern Ireland certificates are not online (and don't contain as much detail as Scottish ones). Will do a big more digging and see what I can find.
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Re: Greenwood Family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 March 12 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Have done a bit of digging and am posting what I have found so far.

First bit is not proven yet-
Thomas GREENWOOD married Sarah Elliot and possibly had-
1. Joseph GREENWOOD (c1828/36 Ireland) m. Isabella BARR (c1832/37 Ireland)
2. Mary GREENWOOD, daughter of Thomas, m.(14 Apr.1853 Loughall) William Hanley
3. William GREENWOOD, son of Thomas, m.(26 Oct.1854 Loughall) Margaret Davidson

1901 census- a William Greenwood (age 86 so born c1815) with daughter Sarah:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Loughgall/Derryloughan/1015844

More to follow...
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Re: Greenwood Family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 March 12 22:04 GMT (UK) »
From census, vital records, etc.:

Joseph Greenwood (c1828/36 Ireland-5 Jan.1909) m. Isabella BARR (c1832/37 Ireland-19 Sept.1908)
Married 1854 Loughgall, Armagh (marriage not found in civil register)
1. Thomas GREENWOOD (c1856 Ireland) m.1875 Agnes Woodburn
2. John GREENWOOD (c1858 Ireland) m. Agnes Hood
3. David Barr? GREENWOOD (16 Apr.1863 Tradeston, Glasgow) m. Margaret
4. Mary GREENWOOD (c1866 Scotland)
5. William GREENWOOD (c1868 Scotland)
6. Sarah GREENWOOD (24 Feb.1871 Dalry, Ayrshire) ?m.(1893) Alexander Reid
7. Joseph GREENWOOD (9 Dec.1872 Stevenson, Ayrshire)
8. Isabella GREENWOOD (26 Sept.1877 Scotland) m.(1909) Edward Johnstone Conniss

1871 Census- 14 Linn Row, Dalry, Ayrshire
Joseph Greeman? 35 Ireland. Wife Bella 39 Ireland. Children: Thomas 15, John 13, David 10, Mary 7, William 4, Sarah 6 months.

1881 Census- Kames Row, Muirkirk, Ayrshire
Joseph Greenwood, 50, Ireland. Wife Isabella Greenwood, 44, Ireland. Children: David 16, Mary 15, William 13, Sarah 11, Joseph 8, Isabella 3. Also 1 boarder.

1891 Census- Main St., Muirkirk, Ayrshire
Joseph Greenwood, 63, Ireland. Wife Isabella Greenwood, 56, Ireland. Children: David 26 b.Dalry, Joseph 18, Isabella 13.

1901 Census- Main St., Muirkirk, Ayrshire
Joseph Greenwood, 72, Ireland, retired coal miner
wife Isabella Greenwood, 66, Ireland, grocer

David Barr? GREENWOOD (16 Apr.1863 Tradeston, Glasgow) m. Margaret

1901 Census- Main St., Muirkirk
David Greenwood, 36, Dalry, cycle agent. Wife Margret Greenwood, 42, Muirkirk. Also 1 boarder, 2 visitors.
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Re: Greenwood Family
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 March 12 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Thomas GREENWOOD (c1856 Ireland) m.(Dec.1875 Galston) Agnes WOODBURN (21 June 1858 Kilmarnock-1 June 1921 Ontario)
1. Ann A. GREENWOOD (c1876)
2. Isabella Barr GREENWOOD (8 Apr.1878 Muirkirk)
3. Joseph GREENWOOD (June 1879)
4. Helen GREENWOOD (c1883)
5. Robert GREENWOOD (c1884)
6. Mary GREENWOOD (c1886)
7. William GREENWOOD (c1888)

Illegitmate child? William Paterson Greenwood born 1876

1881 Census- 168 Garibaldi Square, Dalziel, Lanarkshire
Thom Greenwood, 25, Ireland, coalminer. Wife Agnes 23. Children: Ann A. 5, Isabella B. 4, Joseph 1.

1891 Census- Bankshead Row, Muirkirk, Ayrshire
Thos. Greenwood, 35, Ireland, coalminer. Wife Agnes 33. Children: Isabella 12, Joseph 10, Helen 8, Robert 7, Mary 5, William 3.

1901 Census- 35 North Park St., Kelvinside, Glasgow:
Thomas Greenwood, 45, Ireland, singer's collector?. Wife Agness V?, 43, Kilmarnock. Children: Joseph 20, Helen 16, Robert 16, Mary 15, William 13.

21 Sept.1920 "Saturnia" arrived Quebec, Canada, from Glasgow, Scotland: Mrs. Agnes Greenwood, Presbyterian, b. Kilmarnock, to 'join family', daughetr Mrs. R. Paterson 15 Abermarle St. Hamilton.

Death: 1 June 1921, Agnes Woodburn Greenwood, 15 Abermarle Ave. Hamilton, b.21 June 1858 Scotland, 1 yr. in Canada, father- unk. mother- Woodburn, stroke, buried Hamilton Cemetery, informant- Joseph Greenwood.

Joseph GREENWOOD (June 1879), son of Thomas & Agnes, m. Maggie.
1. Thomas GREENWOOD (Dec.1904 Scotland)
2. Agnes GREENWOOD (May 1908 Scotland).

1911 Census- 105 Case St., Hamilton East, Wentworth, Ontario (all born Scotland, arrived Canada 1911):
Jopseh GREENWOOD, June 1879; Maggie Greenwood, Aug.1879; Thomas Greenwood, Dec.1904; Agnes Greenwood, May 1908.
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Re: Greenwood Family
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 March 12 22:39 GMT (UK) »
John GREENWOOD (c1858 Ireland-died bet.1891/1901) m.(30 July 1879 Kilmarnock) Agnes Hood. Agnes (Hood) Greenwood m.2 John Murray.
1. Joseph GREENWOOD (c1880)
2. Hugh GREENWOOD (c1882)
3. Maggie GREENWOOD (c1885)
4. Isabella Barr "Bella" GREENWOOD (2 Mar.1886 Muirkirk)
5. William GREENWOOD (c1888)
6. Thomas GREENWOOD (c1892)

1881 Census- Baird's Land, Dalziel, Lanarkshire
John Greenwood, 23, Ireland, coal-miner. Wife Agnes Greenwood 22. Son Joseph Greenwood 10 months. Boarder Joseph Hood.

1891 Census- Garronhill, Muirkirk, Ayrshire
John Greenwood, 33, Ireland, fireman in pit. Wife Agnes 31. Children: Hugh 9, Maggie 6, Isabella 5, William 3.

1901 Census- Main St., Muirkirk, Ayrshire
John Murray 33. Wife Agnes Murray 40. Hugh Greenwood 19. Maggie Greenwood 16. Bella Greenwood 15. William Greenwood 13. Thomas Greenwood 9. Agnes Murray ? (not sure if John and Agnes' child).
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