Flounders of Berwick

[leofish]

Baptism of children of Thomas and Lydia in Berwick C of E: 

John Thomas baptised 6 Aug 1820 s/o Thomas and Lydia, cooper of Eastern Lane, Berwick

Jessie Ann Flounders baptised 20 Jun 1824 d/o Thomas and Lydia, cooper of Greeneses, Berwick

William Thomas Thompson Flounders baptised 8 Feb 1829 s/o Thomas and Lydia , labourer of Foul Ford, Berwick

Elizabeth Jane Flounders bapt 1 Jul 1832 d/o Thomas and Lydia, Labourer of Ness Street, Berwick.

Burials:

John Flounders, Walkergate Lane, age 15m, buried 10 Dec 1834

Thomas Flounders, Castlegate, age 48, buried 20 Dec 1833

Janis

Would you have any info on the marriage of Thomas and Lydia

[2zpool]

I will look around for the Flounders marriage and I did find another family baptism in Tweedmouth C of E:

Samuel James illegitimate son of Samuel Gibson, tailor and Jessie Flounders, spinster, both of Tweedmouth, born 23 Dec 1843, baptised 21 Jan 1844

Janis

[2zpool]

From the father Thomas' burial it looks like he was born around 1785.  There is a baptism in Berwick upon Tweed of a Thomas Flounders 9 Jun 1785 son of John and Ruth Flounders

The marriage of Thomas and Lydia does not appear in my index of marriages 1813-1837 in Northumberland or Co. Durham.  Not on the Scotland's People web site that I can see nor in my Irregular marriages book.

Janis

[Gadget]

Hi

This looks like Thomas's baptism giving parents ans John and Ruth

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JWVC-JLW



gnu

Marriage 1780 - John Flounders and Ruth Hills

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2PW-C4Q


gnu

Hi  Janis 

I found that and John and Ruth Hill's marriage yesterday.

I did a thorough check on marriages fror a Thomas and Lydia - Lydia as down as not born Co Durham in the 1841 - nothing that I could see in Co Durham, Northumberland or SP.  I couldn''t see a strong candidate for  a Lydia baptism either 


Could it have been an irregular marriage that's not in your book ?



gnu

[leofish]

The 1841 census shows that Lydia was not born in Durham/Northumberland, nor does she put down that she was from Scotland or Ireland-Could she have come from Yorkshire where I had been told sometime ago that the Flounders clan moved to Berwick from Yorkshire?-Should I be looking in the Yorkshire forum

[Gadget]

Hi

I think I did say that in 1841, 'not born County' meant not born County Durham (Reply #2), which Berwick and some other parishes were part of until 1844 when they were transferred to Northumberland - so 'not born county' could well mean Northumberland or elsewhere (but not Scotland, Ireland or overseas).


gnu

[Barry Flounders]

Some also moved from Berwick to Yorkshire but going into a deeper search it is more likely they originated from Flanders which would have also been their surname origin.

You will see the name as Flanders on a lot of earlier doccuments so it was all down to whoever the scribe was and how he wrote it down