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Germany Marriage certificate
« on: Sunday 26 February 12 16:53 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to help a friend find details of her mother's first marriage.  I have no experience of German records and wondered how we could go about it. 

The couple were Kurt Eitel F.M.Droz and Kate Kunst [born 1906].  They married in Wiesbaden on 3 March 1925.  The register number is 109. 

Any help /advice would be much appreciated. 
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Re: Germany Marriage certificate
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 March 18 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Hello Momo,
did you get any information about Kurt Maria Eitel Droz? I am from Germany and I would like to get some more information about him. Probably there might be an relationship between him and my family.
I am looking forward to hearing from you
Kind regards
Miri

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Re: Germany Marriage certificate
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 March 18 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Kurt Maria Eitel Droz
born 3.3.1895 in Cologne

marriage on the 7.1.1921 in Bierstadt

Germaine Helene Waldmann
born 18.8.1900 in Taviers, Belgium (I think)

Side note on the marriage record
Divorced 15.3.1923

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Kurt Maria Eitel Droz
born 3.3.1895 in Cologne

marriage on the 3.3.1925 in Wiesbaden

Käthe Kunst
born 14.8.1906 in Posen, (now Poland)

Side note on the marriage record
Divorced 28.4.1938

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Kurt and Käthe emmigrated in 1926 – Passenger list - Ship München from Bremen to New York

Kurt, Käthe and child Katharina (3) are mentioned in the 1930 census from San Franzisco
Kurt´s father is entered as being french.

Documents found by Ancestry and Family Search.

Dave

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Re: Germany Marriage certificate
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 March 18 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your replies. 
Miri - i will meet up with my friend later this week and see if she has any more details that might be of interest to you.  What is your interest / connection to Kurt ?
And thank you DaveCapps for all that information. That will certainly add to the information my friend is looking for. Amd possibly helpful to Miri.  Not sure if my friend knew about the first marriage. 
Will be in touch in a day or two again
Momo
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Re: Germany Marriage certificate
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 March 18 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Hello Momo,
thank you for your quick response, thank you DaveCapps for your information too. I am very excited!
It might be, that Kurt Maria Eitel Droz got another daughter in Germany when he was around the age of 60. He was not married to the mother. The name Kurt Maria Eitel Droz is documented in the birth ceritficate. We thought the roots are from Switzerland, but how DaveCapps found out, this Mr. Droz was born in Cologne. Maybe he is not the one we are looking for though the combination of the first given names and the surname is very uncommon. I think there is also the name Friedrich in too (the document is not with me right now).
I´m excited to hear about your friends information,
Miri


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Re: Germany Marriage certificate
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 March 18 08:45 GMT (UK) »
Birth Kurt Droz from marriage record

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Re: Germany Marriage certificate
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 March 18 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Jürgen, a member of a German forum i´m a member of, provided following Info.

Meldekartei Posen. (local registration cards in Posen)

Käthe KUNST born 4.8.1906  in Posen
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/...fUXg/#tabSkany

Parents: Otto Kunst Bausekretär (civil engineer) and Elisabeth SCHULZ

Here other Kunst´s in Posen.
--> http://e-kartoteka.net/index.php?opt...t=WyJrdW5zdCJd


Marriage Otto KUNST 14.11.1900 in Posen Stadt.
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/1926/0...5#tabJednostki

larger scan here.
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/1926/0...8dEOwuMy9qq0Dg

Death Karl Otto Samuel Kunst (Ancestry, Hessen, Deutschland, ausgewählte Sterberegister, 1851-1958) Wiesbaden
https://search.ancestry.de/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=Oql2&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&db=HessenDeaths&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&gsfn=otto&gsfn_x=NP_NN&gsln=Kunst&gsln_x=NP_NN&MSAV=1&uidh=2je&pcat=34&fh=0&h=2737005&recoff=&ml_rpos=1


Meldekartei Posen. (local registration cards in Posen)

Otto karl Samuel KUNST as child
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/...XG8w/#tabSkany

His mother Elisabeth KUNST nee KUHN, born. 26.1.1842 in Lissa.
Died 13.10.1889 in Posen.

Husband not mentioned

Death: Louise KUNST nee KUHN, 47 Jahre alt, born in  Lissa ..,
married to the deceased cigar maker  Reinhold KUNST.
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/1926/0...xe3Xr9Gv-ZXo2A



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Re: Germany Marriage certificate
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 10:15 GMT (UK) »
If you want the birth certifcate from Kurt Droz contact:

Historisches Archiv
Heumarkt 14
50667 Köln

or mail: historischesarchiv@stadt-koeln.de

Stating his Name and the birth registry number 1343 noted on his marriage certificate
Also state the reason you are applying. Genealogy / family research

Ask for an "unbeglaubigte Kopie" - uncertified copy. it´s cheaper ;D

Costs about €12

Dave

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Re: Germany Marriage certificate
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 March 18 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you DaveCapps for all your and the other members efforts and information.
The only information we have is the complete name:

( Content removed for personal reasons )

Thank you all,
Miri