croxford shop in shude hill manchester

[borderman]

I understood my Croxford relatives had a shop in Shude Hill...i,ve been to the site and it has a hotel on it...anybody any ideas as to what sort of shop it was?

[Barbara.H]

1853 directory has Daniel Croxford, Smallware Dealer, 83 Shudehill.
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/index.asp


  Barbara

[borderman]

Thanks Barbara...will look directory up...

[bursy]

Hi Borderman,

As well as the one Barbara found, this one might be yours too.

1855 Directory

George Croxford
Smallware Dealer
1 City Place
Preston St.
Hulme

Regards, Dave

[borderman]

Thanks Dave...that is new to me...

[Barbara.H]

1841 census, Shudehill

Daniel Croxford, 40, smallware dealer
Eliz. Croxford, 35
Geo. Croxford, 9 
Saml.Croxford, 4


Daniel and Samuel are stil there in 1851. Daniel widowed by then.

  Barbara

[borderman]

Thanks Barbara...that info was really helpful...leads into the croxfords in Liverpool where they had a hatbox business in seel street...thanks again

[Chris C 22]

Hi   I've just seen the run of messages on Daniel Croxford of Shude Hill.  He is an ancestor of mine also, his son George married Ellen Picker in Feb 1852 and their daughter Eliza Ellen married Joseph Pink of Liverpool.  George Croxford is on the 1841 census aged 9 but he was not at home on the 1851 census.  Ellen Picker was working for Daniel Croxford, her future father in law, in 1851 listed as an assistant.  She was the daughter of Frederick Picker, a travelling salesman, later a manufacturer, born in Helpringham, Lincolnshire in 1811.

Daniel Croxford was born in Wendover, Bucks, as seen on the 1851 census and I have the record of his baptism taken from the parish register.  The Croxfords are part of a long line of yeomen farmers and carpenters from Wendover.  I have a copy of the will of Daniel's grandfather George Croxford of Wendover, which is a lovely old town/village set at the foot of the Chiltern Hills.

I've long wanted to see where Daniel Croxford had his shop on Shude Hill and to know more about the Manchester side.

Chris (as in Christine)

[borderman]

Hi Chris....George Croxford,s daughter married my Grandfather..Samuel  at the time the Croxfords had a hatbox factory in Seel Street in Liverpool...family legend has it that Ellen ran away to marry Samuel..probably not true...i did go to look at the shop site in shude hill but alas it is now a hotel..why the Croxfords moved to Manchester i don't know..or why the move to Liverpool....

[Chris C 22]

Hi 
Daniel C was the youngest son of quite a large family and I presume he left home in Wendover and made the journey to Manchester on his own.  Times were hard in farming communities and he didn't stand a chance of inheriting the family home.  Manchester was a growing town and there would have been opportunities there but I remember reading that the Shude Hill area in the mid 19th century was an overcrowded, poor area and very run down.

Ellen Picker was only 16 when she married George Croxford although she put 21 on the marriage certificate - they were my gt gt grandparents.  Their daughter Eliza Ellen married Joseph John Pink on 20th Sept 1868 in Liverpool and Eliza Ellen's father, George, is listed as a hat box maker on that.

Who is the Ellen who ran away to marry your grandfather Samuel?  Did George and Eliza have a daughter Eliza Ellen and a daughter Ellen?

On the 1881 census for Bolton Joseph and Eliza Pink are living on Manor Street with their young family, including my grandfather John Pink then aged 5.  Also with them was Eliza's younger brother, George Crocford [sic] aged 13, born in Liverpool.

Eliza Ellen (Croxford) Pink died in Nottingham at the home of my grandparents on Christmas Day 1921.

Chris