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John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« on: Thursday 01 March 12 01:01 GMT (UK) »
Hello Rootschatters

Please can you help me find the marriage of John Roberts b. 1798 Uppingham to a Sarah ? b. 1799 Harringworth.
They would have been in the Uppingham area abt 1825 as their son Isaac was born there in 1825. Their Daughter Caroline who was also listed as born 1825 states Stamford as her birth place  ???  ??? I am not familiar with the geography of Rutland so this is adding to my puzzle!
Also any baptism info of John and his parents names would be really useful. John was my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather.

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Wendy
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Re: John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 March 12 12:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wendy,

CAROLINE Roberts Christened 31 December 1825, St Michaels, Stamford, Lincolnshire.
Parents JOHN/SARAH
Siblings Christened same place;
ISAAC WALTER, 15 June 1822
JOHN THOMAS, 07 September 1823
WILLIAM, 30 November 1824
(Source Familysearch.Org)

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Re: John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 March 12 13:04 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census John is born c 1798, Uppingham, Rutland and Sarah c 1799, Harringworth, Northamptonshire.
Sons William 1834 and Abraham 1838 are born Peterborough, Northamptonshire.
Looks like they got around!
Occp of John is Cabinet Turner.

Just bear with me here for a moment;
From FreeREG, www.freereg.org.uk

Christenings, St Michael, Stamford, Lincolnshire.
To JOHN/SARAH
Fathers Occp, Journeyman Chair Turner
Abode, Without Newgates
ELIZA, 12 Nov 1820
ISAAC WALTER, 15 June 1822
JOHN THOMAS, 07 Sept 1823
WILLIAM, 30 Nov 1824
CAROLINE, 31 Dec 1825
JOHN THOMAS, 04 March 1827

So looks like younger Children were born/christened Lincs. John/Sarah  have moved to Northamptonshire by 1841 and then Rutland before 1851 Census.

1841 Census
St John the Baptist, Peterborough,
Northamptonshire.
HO107/817/3/St John the Baptist
John ROBERTS, 40, Journeyman Turner
Sarah, 40
Isaac, 15
Caroline, 15
Willm, 7
John, 6
Abraham, 3
Only William/John/Abraham born in County, John/Sarah/Isaac/Caroline NOT born in County.

John c 1827 may have died as another is named that c 1835.

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Re: John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 March 12 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Christenings, Peterborough, Northamptonshire to JOHN/SARAH Roberts;
NANCY ANN, 02 May 1830 (may have died)
WILLIAM JOSEPH, 17 Nov 1833
JOHN, 31 December 1834
ABRAHAM, 17 September 1837

All match with 1841 Census and 1851 for William/Abraham.
John 1834 may have left home by 1851 or has died also.
Have fun chasing them up on Census!
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Re: John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 March 12 13:19 GMT (UK) »
As first Children are born Stamford, Lincolnshire, this is a possible Marriage;
John ROBERTS
Sarah BILLINGTON
1820, St Michael, Stamford, Lincolnshire
No exact date is given though just year
(Source Familysearch.Org)

Now someone has Submitted this Marriage on the IGI also, and has date as 21 March 1820.
FreeREG confirms the date and has Witnesses names and both were Bachelor/Spinster.

If you wanted to confirm this Abrahams Birth Cert will have his Mothers Maiden Name;
Abraham ROBERTS, September 1837, Peterborough, 15 224
How lucky are you as it is one of the 1st Civil Births Registered. :)
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Re: John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 March 12 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Submitted info on the IGI has SARAH Billington Christened 28 September 1800, Harringworth, Northampton, England, Mother ANNE Billington.
So if correct looks like she was Illegitimate.
I cant confirm this Christening.

Can someone else please?
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Re: John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 March 12 13:33 GMT (UK) »
May be a possible.
Marriage;
Anne BILLINGTON, Spinster
John HULL, Parish St Thomas in the City of Salisbury
20 October 1809, St Peter/St Paul, Heyford, Nortamptonshire
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Re: John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 March 12 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Can any one with Rutland Records please find Johns Christening.

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Re: John ROBERTS marriage Uppingham?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 March 12 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish

Thank You So Much for all you have found.  :D
It seems that John and Sarah had 3 Johns 1823, 1827 and 1834 and 2 Williams 1824 and 1833!

I am directly descended from Abraham James Roberts 1837.

That branch of the family ended up in London and we progressed to the South coast!
Thank you for finding Eliza 1820 I did not have her in my tree as she was married before 1841. This enabled me to find Sarah Roberts in 1861 Census staying with her married daughter and son in law. Benjamin and Eliza Wilkins in Paddington.
All the new names have been added to my tree and I will now endevour to find the deaths of these new people.

Thanks once again for your time and efforts.
Have to leave the computer now but will keep you informed of anything else I find.

Kind regards
Wendy
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