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Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« on: Sunday 04 March 12 18:11 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information on the death of Agnes Ritch (of the family listed below) .... date/place/circumstances

1.Edward Ritch [Carpenter] was born on 22 Mar 1864 in Newhall, Deerness, Orkney, Scotland. He died on 15 Jul 1949 in Bethlehem, PA, USA. He was buried in #6North Watertown Cemetery Watertown NY. Edward married Elizabeth Tulloch daughter of William Tulloch [Joiner] and Margaret Cormack on 22 Nov 1887 in Kirkwall, Orkney, Scotland. Elizabeth was born on 7 Aug 1862 in Holm and Paplay, Orkney, Scotland. She died on 24 Aug 1909 in Watertown, NY, USA. She was buried in North Watertown Cemetery Watertown NY.
They had the following children:
2. Janet Ritch was born on 30 Jun 1886 in Hawell, St. Andrews, Orkney, Scotland. She died on 21 Apr 1914 in Watertown, NY, USA.  The cause of death was TB. She was buried in #3 North Watertown Cemetery Watertown NY.
3. Agnes Ritch was born on 26 Oct 1888 in Nether Stove, Deerness, Orkney, Scotland. She died in Canada.
4. Maggie Bella Ritch was born on 20 May 1892 in Nether Stove, Deerness, Orkney, Scotland. She died on 7 Dec 1910 in Watertown, NY, USA.  The cause of death was TB. She was buried in #3 North Watertown Cemetery Watertown NY.
5. Elizabeth Victoria Ritch was born in Nov 1896 in USA. She died on 26 Oct 1909 in Watertown, NY, USA.  The cause of death was TB. She was buried in #3 North Watertown Cemetery Watertown NY..
6. Frederick Ritch was born in Feb 1903 in Watertown Jefferson NY. Frederick died on 3 Mar 1904 in Watertown Jefferson NY.
7. Edward Ritch was born on 2 Nov 1907 in Watertown Jefferson Co NY. He died on 5 Nov 1907 in Watertown Jefferson Co NY.

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Re: Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 March 12 18:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jake,

Would Agnes have gone to the USA 1st? I found this USA/Canada crossing info:
Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, about Miss Agnes Ritch
Name: Miss Agnes Ritch, Age: 41, Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Arrival Port: Stanhope, Quebec, Date of Arrival: 3 Nov 1929 
Birth Location: Scotland
Gender: Female
Citizenship: American

Did Agnes marry and change surname? If so, before or after moving to Canada/USA?
Do have an estimate sailling date to North America?

If you can provide as much info about this person as you can it would help us help you :-)

JDC
 
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Cole - Devon
Coy - Germany
Langmaid - Cornwall & Hants
Rayment - Herts & Kent
Holt - ? England

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Re: Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 March 12 18:39 GMT (UK) »
I believe Agnes remained a spinster, and a family story is that she was unwilling to return to USA to help her elderly father and my second cousin twice removed [2nd marriage for both] in their old age.
The blank period for us is now roughly after about 1930 until her death ... that I am seeking.
Thank you for 1929 border crossing information.
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 March 12 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Ellis Island NY - Arrivals - 1893

 First Name: Elizth.
Last Name: Ritch
Ethnicity: Scotland
Last Place of Residence: 
Date of Arrival: August 14, 1893
Age at Arrival:  31y    Gender:  F    Marital Status:  M   
Ship of Travel: Furnessia
Port of Departure: Glasgow & Moville
Manifest Line Number: 0013
 

 First Name: Janet
Last Name: Ritch
Ethnicity: Scotland
Last Place of Residence: 
Date of Arrival: August 14, 1893
Age at Arrival:  7y    Gender:  F    Marital Status:     
Ship of Travel: Furnessia
Port of Departure: Glasgow & Moville
Manifest Line Number: 0014
 


 First Name: Agnes
Last Name: Ritch
Ethnicity: Scotland
Last Place of Residence: 
Date of Arrival: August 14, 1893
Age at Arrival:  4y    Gender:  F    Marital Status:     
Ship of Travel: Furnessia
Port of Departure: Glasgow & Moville
Manifest Line Number: 0015


First Name: Maggie
Last Name: Ritch
Ethnicity: Scotland
Last Place of Residence: 
Date of Arrival: August 14, 1893
Age at Arrival:  11m    Gender:  F    Marital Status:     
Ship of Travel: Furnessia
Port of Departure: Glasgow & Moville
Manifest Line Number: 0016

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PREVIOUS SAILING TO ABOVE

 First Name: Edward
Last Name: Ritch
Ethnicity: Scot
Last Place of Residence: Orkney
Date of Arrival: May 01, 1893
Age at Arrival:  28y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:     
Ship of Travel: Furnessia
Port of Departure: Glasgow
Manifest Line Number: 0135
Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 March 12 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I should have mentioned that Agnes' residence in Canada is believed to have been OTTAWA.

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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 March 12 15:21 GMT (UK) »
On the 1929 Border Crossing document Agnes is grouped with a Mrs. Catherine Gibb, 51, from Berlin, NH, as well as David (22), Alison (12) and Hellen (18) Gibb.  Agnes's occupation in her own country (i.e. the US)  is given as Domestic, as is the occupation she intends to pursue in Canada.  The destination for all is given as Ottawa, where they will join Mrs. Gibb's husband, John S. Gibb.
She must have worked as a domestic for the Gibb family in Ottawa.  Unfortunately the Ontario death records index only goes to about 1939 at present so if she died after that date the record would not yet be available. 

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Re: Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 March 12 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you

That may be a useful lead to follow if any newspaper obituaries are available.
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll

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Re: Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 March 12 18:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jake,

You may want to contact the Ottawa Public Library for an obit. You may want to check the Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid as well to see if Agnes is listed in an Ottawa/Carleton Co area cemetery. You can then contact the cemetery administration to see about getting more info on her. Again, hope this helps.

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Re: Agnes Ritch Scotland then USA then Canada
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 March 12 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks again.
Cheers
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Fife, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod, Cassells  in Fife
Henderson, Nicoll, Baxter, Hill in Angus, Nicoll in California USA, Australia
Henderson Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, and NY State
Telfer, Walker, Rennie, Maclaren in Falkirk, Glasgow, Paisley, USA, Australia, NZ
Rennie in Winnipeg
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian, Stirling, Illinois, Ontario, Manitoba
Waddel in West Lothian, Ohio
McMillan in Argyll