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What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« on: Sunday 04 March 12 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Before I give the details, I will add this is my sister, so I am more than touchy about it.....hurt and furious is more like it >:(

Would you feel right about adding a deceased person to your Tree that was born in 1947 and died in 2002, you are aware that they were married with children.

Is it acceptable in Family Research?

It has been removed now.

I did add this to another Thread, but just in case it is not answered have put it here.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,571283.160.html

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GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
GLAM to USA:Walter H Davies 1886.Thomas J 1852
PEMBROKE: Bradnum.Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum.Cork.Helsdon 3 in Australia, Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON:Mallett. Acford, Kidston.Short.Lover.Edwards,Telford.Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL:Eddy.Thomas Maddern.Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten,Curtis.
Cornwall to USA: Thomas, Semmens. Oats
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Re: What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 March 12 04:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ambers,
It is totally understandable why you are upset about it, but I think most web sites allow it . I also think many people think it is acceptable. Take for instance my cousin added his own father to his public tree (his father only died last year) .
Would I do it ? No,  personally I would not  , but I don't have my tree in the public domain for many reasons, privacy being one of the major ones.

If you are worried about someone tracing the children of your sister because your sister's name is on the tree - Surely you would also need to take  the parents and grandparents off the tree too, as you can trace a massive amount of  living  people in England and Wales  by starting at the  great grandparents or grandparents and going down the tree to modern day using the 1901/1911 censuses and the  BMD's. I've traced a huge amount of my living relatives and their young children by doing just that.

Kind regards :)

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Re: What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 March 12 10:19 GMT (UK) »
I think it's acceptable, but I would not put exact birth and death dates if it is in the public domain (i.e. accessable online by all).

When I first started my tree, I only went as far as aunts and uncles (who were mainly all deceased), and then I was approached by cousins who wanted to be included too, and they wanted their children included, but I only included the ones who requested it.

RIP 1949-10th January 2013

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Re: What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 March 12 11:32 GMT (UK) »
I can see that it is acceptable on site's because the person is deceased, would I do it. NO.

I always try to be respectful of others feelings, regardless of facts in the public domain, and leave it to them to add what they find acceptable regarding their own close family.......if they don't add it, neither do I.

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GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
GLAM to USA:Walter H Davies 1886.Thomas J 1852
PEMBROKE: Bradnum.Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum.Cork.Helsdon 3 in Australia, Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON:Mallett. Acford, Kidston.Short.Lover.Edwards,Telford.Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL:Eddy.Thomas Maddern.Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten,Curtis.
Cornwall to USA: Thomas, Semmens. Oats
Warwickshire: Mountney


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Re: What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 March 12 19:22 GMT (UK) »
I don't think it is acceptable but there are many people out there that are adding names and people to their trees without thinking how it may affect others.

Very recently I found someone with my father on their tree. He had a private spouse and male child.  :o

I was very shocked and concerned particularly for my dear Mum as it appeared Dad had had a relationship with someone other than her.

I contacted the tree owner to query if this was indeed my Dad. It wasn't, the owner had added him incorrectly.

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Re: What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 March 12 21:08 GMT (UK) »
That must have been a shock for you :o ,

I think my sisters children would have be surprised to find that she had been married another man too ??? ....shame people don't buy certificates , isn't it?

It's funny because when we see our rellie's with multiple partners and hoards of children that aren't theirs in bygone years added to Trees...we tend think here we go again. ::)

It has a much different affect on us when it is our own next of kin though.

I will still stick to the criteria of, if I wouldn't add a living rellie born in that year, then I will not add a deceased one.

Also if I view a persons Tree and they don't add a marriage for their mother or any children neither would I on a Public one.

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GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
GLAM to USA:Walter H Davies 1886.Thomas J 1852
PEMBROKE: Bradnum.Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum.Cork.Helsdon 3 in Australia, Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON:Mallett. Acford, Kidston.Short.Lover.Edwards,Telford.Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL:Eddy.Thomas Maddern.Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten,Curtis.
Cornwall to USA: Thomas, Semmens. Oats
Warwickshire: Mountney

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Re: What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 March 12 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi ambers  :)

I was so sorry to hear you had had a difficult experience too.

Yes it was a shock for me but thankfully Mum knew nothing about it. 

I don't have an online tree so I haven't had to consider if to add recently deceased family members .

maidmarion  :)

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Re: What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 00:13 GMT (UK) »
The worst is I was trying to help someone who couldn't find their 2xgrandfather.

I really feel for you finding your dad linked to another woman and child, had it been me, denial and panic would have set it  :o :-X >:( :o

Someone has just contacted me from Ancestry with a request to see my Tree, can you imagine what I am thinking  at this very moment %&£$

We live and learn  :-[

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GLAMORGAN: Evans. Davies. Eddy. Bradnum.
GLAM to USA:Walter H Davies 1886.Thomas J 1852
PEMBROKE: Bradnum.Summers
CARMARTHENSHIRE:Davies. Jones
NORFOLK/SUFFOLK: Bradnum.Cork.Helsdon 3 in Australia, Whiskins. Fairhead.Catchpole.
DEVON:Mallett. Acford, Kidston.Short.Lover.Edwards,Telford.Sparrow
SOMERSET: Masey
CORNWALL:Eddy.Thomas Maddern.Harvey. Noy.Reynolds,Batten,Curtis.
Cornwall to USA: Thomas, Semmens. Oats
Warwickshire: Mountney

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Re: What is the protocol for adding this to a Public Tree
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 00:20 GMT (UK) »
I added some deceased rellies to my tree when I was first searching, but later, on making contact with the living descendants, they were upset and asked me to remove their grandfather from the tree - so I did.  Seems only polite to respect the wishes of others.   I have subsequently made my tree private to avoid hurting others unwittingly.

That would have been a bit of a shock for you Ambers.   Hope they have seen your point of view in good spirit!

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