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HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« on: Monday 05 March 12 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Hello Chatters

Need your help again !!!

Looking for a Richard HART and Bridget YOUNG

Richard HART

Born 1819 Dublin Ireland

Died 5 Feb. 1897 Wanagatta Victoria

Looking for any info. i.e parents...

He had 14 Children

Married to Bridget YOUNG

Born 1835 Galway Ireland

She died in 1898 Wangaratta Victoria

Anything to get me started !!!

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Jamison

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Re: HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 March 12 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Parents should be named on the marriage record for HART and YOUNG. If you dont have that yet then you could obtain the details of it from the birth certs of their children born in Victoria.  You can then look for the marriage .  Alternatively as you already have the death info for both Richard and for Bridget surely you already have those two Vic dcs?  And the info re parents should be on those two records.

Cheers JM ..  PS I am NSW Centric but I am sure VIC BDM certs are among the most detailed in the world.  You can download images immediately with your plastic card for around $18 ea
Hello Chatters

Need your help again !!!

Looking for a Richard HART and Bridget YOUNG

Richard HART

Born 1819 Dublin Ireland

Died 5 Feb. 1897 Wanagatta Victoria

Looking for any info. i.e parents...

He had 14 Children

Married to Bridget YOUNG

Born 1835 Galway Ireland

She died in 1898 Wangaratta Victoria

Anything to get me started !!!

Regards

Jamison
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Re: HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 00:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Well, I am sure this will get you more than started  :)

Richard Hart married Bridget Young 7 Nov 1852 according to RC rites, and in the Yass District of NSW.  The relevant NSW BDM Early Church Record would be referenced V1852, line 505, vol 98.   

I have just spent a couple of minutes online from my armchair and thus gleaned the above information from two online sources which are both free to search.  Here are the two links.

a)   The date and denomination from  https://familysearch.org
b)   The Early Church Record  from NSW BDM http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm

I leave it to you to follow up with checks of the Yass district's RC parish register/s, either via the Diocese or via the family history groups in that district. 

Here's a link to the volunteers at the Yass & District HS http://www.yasshistory.org.au/about.htm

Cheers,  JM
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Re: HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps you need to get Richard's age sorted first.  I see that he was supposedly aged 40 in 1872 when daughter Agnes was born.  This gives him a birth year of c1832, not 1819.  Do you have other documentation that refutes this age?

http://users.tpg.com.au/smithlr/module04/07_tracking_the_harts_2.htm

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Re: HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 02:03 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
Richard HART d 1897 aged 78 Wangaratta- Richard HART  and unknown mother # 3477
Bridget HART d 1898 aged 62 Wangaratta - Michael DEVANEY and unknown mother # 14303

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Re: HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 05:19 GMT (UK) »
They had a son William b 1852 somewhere in Riverina area of NSW and lost a son Nicholas in 1878 at Wagga Wagga. Seems they moved around a bit.

From what alison has, it seems unusual if her fathers name was Devaney, then he may not have married Bridgets mother or........ unlikely; 

if her age is right that she married previously?

Unknown mother is very strange ???

Her mother could very well be ..........?.?.?.YOUNG?

Also unless the informant never knew. ::) ... Always on the cards. 8)

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Re: HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 06:35 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jamison

Just in case you haven't seen it there is a digitised record of Letters of Administration of the estate of Richard HART, farmer, d 5 February 1897, of Wangaratta South granted to his widow Bridget.  Included is an inventory  - he owned acreage, a four-roomed slab house, 17 cows of various ages and colours and 10 head of young stock!  Bridget signs with a cross.

There is also a file with grant of Administration to their eldest son Richard HART, farmer, of South Wangaratta because Bridget has died 9 August 1898, before Richard's estate can be fully administered.

http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54

As already pointed out on the other thread these are the parents of Steve HART the bushranger in the KELLY gang.  Lots of info about him on TROVE etc.  Here's the Wiki ref

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Hart


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Re: HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 06:44 GMT (UK) »
I would be wanting to further confirm Richard's age with perhaps one of the middle children's birth certs - that is quite a large discrepancy.

Perhaps this is Bridget arriving:

Thomas Arbuthnot arr. Jan 1850 Sydney

Bridget YOUNG, 16, house servant, native of Hannadown(?), Galway, parents Michael and Ellen
Mary YOUNG, 21, nurse maid, native of Hannadown(?), Galway, parents Michael and Ellen

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Re: HART, R and Young, B - Wangaratta Victoria
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 07:02 GMT (UK) »
I think DEBRA is correct in her arrival finding.

Here is the death of the woman who was possibly BRIDGET's first daughter (about 1853) and she possibly has her grandmother's given name.


Death
ELLEN O’Leary- Parents- RICHARD HART & Bridt  YOUNG
Death Place MBNA
Age 71
Year 1924
Reg Number 2858

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