Harriet DICKINSON MARKWELL BUTLER HUGHES bu with SUNNERDALE Qld

[searchr]

I have lots on Harriet (and other variations) & her 1st husband Thomas Markwell, but virtually nothing about her 2nd & 3rd husbands & why Robert Sunnerdale was buried with her.
her details so far with sources:
bp: 7 Apr 1822 Wainfleet Lincoln: family search England & Wales Non- Conformist Record indexes RG4-8 record set RG4_1940
m1: Thomas Markwell 31 Jan 1840 Wainfleet All Saints freereg & Mar 1840 Qtr Spilsby Vol 14 p 779 freebmd
He d 1862 when a tree fell on him after they arrived in Qld on the City of Brisbane. Harriet seems to have been recorded as Hannah Harkwell (Markwell in later version) in Bill Barlow's book the voyage of the City of Brisbane). He was bu 23 Nov 1862 Wesleyan Burial Ground from his death certificate but I haven't found where he was re-buried.
m2: Thomas Butler Qld reg 1863/ B719
m3: William Hughes Qld reg 1893/ B16070
bu: Hughes Harritte D 12/ 6/ 1905 South Brisbane or Dutton Park cem Portion 10D  # 69C from Brisbane grave location search.
It seems a pity that she has no marker on her grave after so many children and marriages.

[searchr]

To save people any double work, these are the other threads in which I have mentioned her:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,320939.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,585367.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,584332.0.html

[SandraAust]

Is it possible that Robert SUNNERDALE might have been a son-in-law? One of my Grandmothers is buried with her brother in law and that was done simple because the family couldn't afford another plot.

[searchr]

Thanks.
Yes. He might not even be related.
I haven't found any links yet. I'm hoping someone might know.
Harriet had, I believe, 18 children from her 1st marriage & 1 from her 2nd.

[SandraAust]

18? I'm exhausted just thinking about it! 

[SandraAust]

I found a clue re SUNNERDALE.

http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/awm8/23/111/awm8-23-111-1-0172.pdf

Has a Reuben Robert SUNNERDALE aged 18, a farm labourer, the interesting thing is his address given at the time of signing up was c/- Mrs BUTLER Caswell St, East Brisbane and his NOK as Mr R SUNNERDALE 17 Quay St, North Quay. I know that Mrs Butler can't be Harriet because it was several years after her death, but I wonder if he is somehow related to the family of Harriet's second husband?

[searchr]

Thanks for the awm clue. I'll follow it up.
True about the 18!
From her death certificate, that was over 26y, from m1 at 17y to m2 at 43y.
just a note: a variant of Sunnerdale could be SUNNERDAHL
Also, it's quite possible her grave was originally marked, but that her headstone was one of the victims of the Brisbane City Council's beautification scheme in 1975 - 76. According to the Friends of South Brisbane Cemetery's 2008 book by Tracey Olivieri about the cemetery's early yrs, about 100 headstones were removed then & used for purposes like infilling gullies. The council did evidently try to redress this later.
Also, Thomas's headstone, if it existed, could have been used for roadfill. Truth Nov 17 1907 evidently had an article about this. Other sites about it are brisbane history, chapel hill site about Paddington cemetery and the Brisbane city Council site about historic cemeteries: Paddington. Again, the council has tried to redress this. He could lie under what was Lang Park, now Suncorp Stadium. Lang Park was named after the person who arranged for Thomas's siblings to come out on the Chaseley & Fortitude. Brisbane's Fortitude Valley, where, from her death certificate, Harriet lived with her 3rd husband, was named after that ship.

[SandraAust]

What a terrible thing to do to a cemetery! I know that the original Melbourne Cemetery is actually under the grounds of the Queen Victoria Market. Those things would never be allowed to happen nowadays.

[searchr]

Yes. It wasn't all at once though with the Paddington one.
I remembered I'd done some research earlier about your clue. I do think that is our (Oscar) Robert as that NOK.
Reuben Robert is on the aif.adfa.edu.au site too, and the ww2roll one, which gives DOB and place of birth.
 I'd found a trove article 1912 about the death of Robert's wife, who'd previously married someone who seemed to be, through matching with the Qld bdm, William Ely WALDING. She was Marion, Marian, Mariann, or Marianne Elizabeth ORTON or HORTON. Their parents and children came up on various Qld bdm searches. Surnames that came up in the families included CAIN or PAYNE, PETERSEN, TOMLINSON, MUNDEY and more. However, I didn't find a link to Butler.
Maybe he was staying with a Mrs Butler in a boarding house?
Even Oscar Robert is a bit close to the memories of living people, though, for me.