Herbert Samuel PALMER b. ca 1900 Bristol COMPLETED thanks to keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again Suzanne, the only problem initially re Winifred on the 1926 departure is she is b c  1891 and not 1901?

Also need to locate the birth of daughter Winifred?
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

OK found the birth of young Winifred:-

Winifred M Palmer Sept 1920 Devonport 5b 594 Mothers maiden name HERBERRT!

Keyboard86

[Suzanne4440]

I do have dau Winnifred May PALMER as born 1918 but that's from the immigration age given as 8 in 1926. The son Herbert Sydney PALMER is listed in his marriage as age 21 in 1944 and was born in "Devonport, Plymouth,England".

Anyway, it is almost 4AM here so I must go to bed.   I am falling asleep!
Suzanne

[Suzanne4440]

Our posts crossed. THANK YOU SO MUCH! You are very kind to do all that looking up for me. If you need anything looked up in New Brunswick, Canada, just ask.
Thank you again.
Suzanne

[keyboard86]

OK found the birth of young Winifred:-

Winifred M Palmer Sept 1920 Devonport 5b 594 Mothers maiden name HERBERRT!

Keyboard86

Other births with Mothers maiden name Herbert:-

Hazel M Palmer Dec 1918 Devonport 5b 479
Herbert S Palmer Sept 1922 Devonport 5b 504

Death Hazel M Palmer March 1919 Devonport 5b 546 aged 0

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[Suzanne4440]

That clinches it - her brother Herbert S. b. in 1922 who emigrated with her and their mom.  You found her! I see she had a sister Hazel who died before the emigration.

I appreciate all you have searched for me - thank you so much!

Suzanne

[keyboard86]

Hi Suzanne, I know you suggest this is completed, but what has still not been located or investigated is just when/where was Winifred P Herbert born, also when/where was Herbert Samuel born?

On another slant, I wondered why the young Herbert was Herbert Sydney and not Herbert Samuel like his father?

Also the 1926 departure clearly states age of Winifred snr as 35 ie an 1891 birth, or did they write 35 instead of 25?
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Wow! That's great! They have the ages all wrong in the transcription in the Canadian Library  and Archives. They did say that it was very hard to read. They listed Winifred as 24, dau. Winifred as 8 and Herbert as 6 which I figured was a mis transcription for 26. He must be the Herbert S. PALMER 1922 - 1977 in the same cemetery as Winifred PALMER. I didn't know about him. One Herbert PALMER listed came over on the MONTCLARE (Canadian Pacific Line) 9 Jul 1927, age 42 (b. 1885). There are two others, one aged 22 in 1927 and one aged 21 in 1928. I suppose it is possible that hHerbert Sr. came over the next year for some reason.

I just checked our provincial archives who are posting digital copies of death cert. on a daily basis. They are up to some in 1953 now and  Winifred Pretoria (nee HERBERT) PALMER's is there! It wasn't a few days ago. The privavcy cut-off date is 1961 so they have a team working daily on them. Anyway, her father was Edward HERBERT, b. "England" and her mother is "unknown" by informant. She was born in Devon 3 June 1900.

Does any of this help?
Suzanne

Also this suggests her father was an Edward?
Keyboard86

[Suzanne4440]

Yes, "Edward", but the son who was the informant didn't know his grandmother's name, so I am taking "Edward" as a "possible", not for certain. Many kids grow up just knowing their grandparents as "Grammy and Grampy".