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charlie chaplin
« on: Saturday 18 February 12 18:35 GMT (UK) »
i think there maybe a post on this what i may of missed, but did anyone find where he was born, ? piont me in right direction for posts if its been discussed plz  ;D

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Re: charlie chaplin
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 February 12 18:58 GMT (UK) »
East Street, Walworth, London, England.  April 15th or 16th 1889

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Re: charlie chaplin
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 February 12 22:06 GMT (UK) »
MI5 drew a blank on finding Charlie Chaplin birthplace, so well done  :) :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17072165

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Re: charlie chaplin
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 February 12 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Well this is him in 1891 - of course it's only a census record and the birthplace Walworth could be incorrect

1891 census: 94 Barlow St, Walworth, Newington, London (RG12/362, f 42, p 5)
Hannah Chaplin, Head, M, 24, Professional Singer, Surrey Walworth
Sydney J H Chaplin, Son, 6, Surrey Walworth
Charles Chaplin, Son, 2, Surrey Walworth

1901 census: 94 Ferndale Rd, Lambeth, London (RG13/425, f 97, p 41)
Charles Chaplin, Servt, 12, Music Hall Artiste, Surrey London


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Re: charlie chaplin
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 February 12 22:27 GMT (UK) »
There is no birth certificate, or birth registration for Charlie Chaplin.

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Re: charlie chaplin
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 February 12 22:36 GMT (UK) »
I do not see any reason for MI5 to conclude (as the BBC article says), "It would seem that Chaplin was either not born in this country or that his name at birth was other than those mentioned."

A relatively small number of births went unregistered by this time, and Charlie seems to be one of them.

I see no reason to think that the 1891 census, giving his birthplace as Walworth, is false. I think it would be difficult for a 2 year old communist to purposely deceive the census enumerators.

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Re: charlie chaplin
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 February 12 09:56 GMT (UK) »
If you search for Hannah Chaplin in Google you will find a Daily Mail article about a book called "Chaplin: A Life" which suggests that Hannah was an "actress" in the euphemistic sense rather than dramatic and that there are suspicions that she contracted syphilis which caused her to go insane.
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Re: charlie chaplin
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 February 12 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Whilst they were speculating its surprising the BBC did not make reference to this story from 2011 that claims that he was actually born in Staffordshire

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/02/18/charlie-chaplin-was-born-into-midland-gipsy-family/

A story given some credence by Chaplins son Michael

Perhaps the BBC didn't do their homework properly on this story and so many others  ::)
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Charlie Chaplin a gypsy?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 March 12 18:39 GMT (UK) »
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/02/18/charlie-chaplin-was-born-into-midland-gipsy-family/

This is an intriguing story. Has anyone on Rootschat got any info to corroborate this evidence I wonder?
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