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alice emma pritchard/thompson
« on: Monday 19 March 12 14:34 GMT (UK) »
i think that Alice Emma Pritchard may well be the half-sister of my Grandmother Harriet Palmer ...Alice born 1900  Harriet c.1890...my Great Grandmother,Emma Palmer, married James Pritchard c.1900...it is possible that Alice married Cyril Thompson in 1921...all a complete mystery to my family...

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Re: alice emma pritchard/thompson
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 March 12 14:52 GMT (UK) »
1901
RG13/2526/19/7
Sunnyside, Madeley, Shropshire

James PRITCHARD  Head  34  Waggoner on Farm  b. Much Wenlock, Shrops
Emma PRITCHARD  Wife  31  b. Abdon, Shrops
Emma PRITCHARD  Dau  1 month  b. Coalbrookdale, Shrops
Harriet PALMER  Niece  11  Scholar  b. Munslow, Shrops

Niece or stepdaughter?   :-\
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: alice emma pritchard/thompson
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 March 12 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Manchester Rambler  not niece...emma's daughter..

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Re: alice emma pritchard/thompson
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 March 12 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Birth reg FreeBMD
Harriet Palmer
Sept qtr 1889
Ludlow reg dist Shropshire
6a 549

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Harriet Palmer
27 Oct 1889
Munslow Salop
parent Emma Palmer

so it looks like she was daughter - she is with grandparents 1891 - maybe entered as niece in 1901 by mistake -or to cover her illegitimacy

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Re: alice emma pritchard/thompson
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 March 12 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Marriage reg
Dec qtr 1900
Emma Palmer
James Pritchard
Ludlow
6a 1297

so Harriet would be over a year old when Emma married

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: alice emma pritchard/thompson
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 March 12 15:17 GMT (UK) »
"Nephew", "niece" and "cousin" weren't always used in the same way as today (sometimes they were used loosely to mean a relation of the younger/same generation), so it's hard to know exactly why she's listed as niece rather than daughter/stepdaughter/wife's daughter, although it looks a little odd - maybe a cover-up for illegitimacy as Suz suggests.

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Harriet would be over a year old when Emma married

Harriet was born in 1889, which would make her 11 when Emma married in 1900 - ??

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: alice emma pritchard/thompson
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 March 12 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Niece ...umm...anyway Harriet married in and had a few children...i remember her well...but another family ie Emma Pritchard was never mentioned..i've asked the only living child of Harriet but no knowledge of another family..is that unusual?

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Re: alice emma pritchard/thompson
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 March 12 16:02 GMT (UK) »
It's difficult to guess, but if Harriet didn't get on with her stepfather, or had a row with her stepsister she may not have talked about her?  That's only speculation, of course, but in my own family, my father and his older sister were completely unaware that one of their mother's brothers existed, even though a cousin they talked about turned out to be his son.    ::)
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: alice emma pritchard/thompson
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 March 12 23:19 GMT (UK) »
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Harriet would be over a year old when Emma married

Harriet was born in 1889, which would make her 11 when Emma married in 1900 - ??

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Whoops -of course -it should be 11years!!!

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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