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Gissing. Berry
« on: Saturday 24 March 12 20:07 GMT (UK) »
 I found that John Gissing was transported April 1828 then it said not transported. Does anyone know where he went to. I can't find any records of him. He came from Wickham skeith suffolk. On the Romany Gipsy Connections site I found a Alfred Berry Bc 1831 Wickham Skeith . I also found a John Gissing , Mary Ann Bc 1867. Frederick Gissing., also on the Gipsy web site.  Can anyone help. ::) ::)

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Re: Gissing. Berry
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 March 12 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure he wasn't transported. A report in the Ipswich Journal, April 12th, 1828 says John Gissing was removed from gaol to be put aboard the Leviathan hulk, Portsmouth.

Another report gives his age as 23yrs
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Re: Gissing. Berry
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 March 12 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your quick reply.   

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Re: Gissing. Berry
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 March 12 21:18 GMT (UK) »
the Leviathan  doesn't appear to have made a journey to Australia, it could have been just a prison hulk which was moored at Portsmouth and served his time there, hence not transported. 
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Re: Gissing. Berry
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 March 12 21:23 GMT (UK) »
on the Australion convict transportation registers there is a Robert Gissing from Suffolk, convicted 5 July 1824 and transported on the Hercules to NSW for 7 years. 

No sign of a John Gissing though
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Re: Gissing. Berry
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 March 12 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your reply. Yes I did find a Robert Gissing but not John. There is no record of his death.  Perhaps he fell overboard. Or got away and changed his name.

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 March 12 06:06 BST (UK) »
Link to Australia Board thread.  We cannot see him after the Prison Hulk record where, in the column "How disposed of", his entry reads F. P. 29 August, 1832.  (Full Pardon?)

So perhaps he was not transported at all.  ???

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=588934.new#new

(Yes, Leviathan was a prison hulk not a convict transport.)

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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Gissing. Berry
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 March 12 06:59 BST (UK) »
You may have this already.
IGI has this record - however it's only a submitted record so treat with caution!  Especially as I can't see a matching death on FreeBMD, and I realise GISSING is not a rare name in that part of Suffolk.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
         
John Frederick GISSING,   
Born:  18 AUG 1805     Wickham Skieth, , Suffolk, England
Died: 06 SEP 1862     London, London, England
Parents: John Gissing,    Elizabeth Harber

A record of baptism for this person is on the Suffolk records:
John Frederic GISSING,
Born 18/8/1805, baptised 6/6/1806
Parents: John Gissing,    Elizabeth Harber

Siblings:
William Alfred GISSING, born 25/03/1803, baptised privately 13/04/1803, received into the church 6/6/1806
Robert GISSING, born 17/01/1801, baptised privately 17/01/1801,  received into the church 6/6/1806
Charlotte GISSING, born 03/02/1799, publicly baptised 30/06/1800

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SFK/WickhamSkeith/ws_bap2.txt

I may have missed some!

There are some BERRY records on the same site.

Wondering if Robert is the one who was transported. (Reply #4)

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Re: Gissing. Berry
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 March 12 07:06 BST (UK) »
There are a few trees on ancestry with John Gissing
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