Emms/Andrew Family.

[mrsericnorthman]

Hello, I've become stuck on a part of my tree. I have an Emms family who can't be found in 1871 and a few Andrew relatives that i can't find either.

My 3rd great grandmother Ellen Emms was born in 1854 in kingston, surrey. In 1861 her family had moved to Upsall in Yorkshire. And then she gets married in Toxteth near Liverpool in 1877, and her parents and siblings settle in Liverpool around that time too. Only thing is i can't find them on the 1871 census. Her father was called Thomas and her mother, Harriet. There were 8 children by them by 1871, Ellen was the 3rd oldest.

Then i have Hannah Bleasdale Andrew and Elizabeth Ellen Andrew (they were the children of the mentioned ellen emms). Hannah was born in 1889 fulham, and Elizabeth in 1882 brompton. I can't find marriage or death certs. for either of them, i just wonder what might of happened to them.

if anyone can help it would be much appreciated. thank you.

[softly softly]

Hi,
1871 census ref rg10 3826 67 16-transcribed as "EMMA"

John

[suzard]

There are these baptisms which give actual dates of birth

4 Andrew children were all baptised on the same day at Parsons Green St Dionis Hammersmith & Fulham
parents Evan and Ellen Andrew
address 9 Crondace Rd
father's occupation  Superintendant Prudential Assurance
Baptisms all took place on 6 jan 1889
Elizabeth Ellen Andrew born 5 Jun 1882
William Evan Andrew born 2 April 1884
Florence Ada Andrew born 20 Jan 1886
Hannah Bleasedale Andrew born 10 Nov 1888

Suz

[softly softly]

Hi,
Hannah Andrew is still single by 1911 and living with her brother William Evan and family. There is a Hannah B Andrew death in 1965 aged 82-this does make age incorrect for date of birth but info on death certs only as good as the informants knowledge. Parents died-Evan march q 1911 and Ellen march q 1904, both Fulham.

John

[suzard]

There are these baptisms which give actual dates of birth

4 Andrew children were all baptised on the same day at Parsons Green St Dionis Hammersmith & Fulham
parents Evan and Ellen Andrew
address 9 Crondace Rd
father's occupation  Superintendant Prudential Assurance
Baptisms all took place on 6 jan 1889
Elizabeth Ellen Andrew born 5 Jun 1882
William Evan Andrew born 2 April 1884
Florence Ada Andrew born 20 Jan 1886
Hannah Bleasedale Andrew born 10 Nov 1888

apologies -somehow I double posted

Hannah Bleasedale was still single in 1911 - can't find Elizabeth Ellen after 1901???

Maybe they emigrated??

Suz

[Kevrock9]

Hi,
Ellen Emms was my great grandmother.
If you still need any info on Emms or Andrew families then please let me know.