Gougler, a french protestant?

[Ology]

I've traced my family back to Sarah Gogler born 1694 in Moulton, Lincolnshire. Her parents are Petri and Maria. At first I didn't have much look finding ANY Goglers but then spotted a Pierre Gougler baptised in a French Protestant Church to Jan Gougler and Susanne Herssin in Sandtoft 1663

A year before the birth of their first child in 1691 I've found a marriage between a Petrus Flowers and a Maria Godwin in Moulton, they only have one child recorded using the name Flowers. So is this the same couple?
I'm not sure whether I'm on the right track, so a second opinion would be greatly appreciated.

[dcbnwh]

My wife is descended from French Huguenots but from the London area.

However, I have a book relating to those from the Santoft and Thorney areas, which includes the names that you mention. Unfortunately is states that the marriage and burial records have been lost.

There was a mixture of Walloon and French settlers in the area and Jan tends to suggest Walloon, although it could be that the communities intermarried.

Names changed spelling as they became Anglicized but there is evidence of Gougler in both France and Holland. Petrus is also a Dutch name.

I will dig a little deeper to see if I can find anything.

David

[Ology]

Thanks, It's an interesting find, so I want to find out as much as I can.
From what I've read so far after further persecution in Sandtoft many migrated south to the Fens. This helps confirm my theory that Gogler and Gougler are the same.

[dcbnwh]

Just a quick note.

The migration pattern is roughly The Hague and Dunkirk to Ipswich. Then to Norwich and Sandtoft. Some of the London Huguenots also migrated to Sandtoft, either directly or via Norwich. Many then moved down to Thorney and a list of some names is given. The nearest to Gogler is Coquelar and, from my wife's ancestry, the 'q' is sometimes written as a 'g'.

However, the is one section which records twins baptized at Thorney including Elizabeth and Susanne Goglar in 1707.

I would suspect that the Goglars of Moulton arrived there from Thorney.

There are several names in Thorney similar to Flowers, including Flour, Fleurhay, Fleuren, Fleurbaie and Fleurbois.

Just found another name of a Sandtoft person who moved to Thorney - Jacques Goglar

Regards,
David

P.S. Google "jacques Coquelar" A person of this name is listed in "Bulletin of the Society of the history of French Protestantism"

[dcbnwh]

This could be Jaques Coquelar/Goglar who moved to Thorney:-

groom's name: Jaques Coquelar
bride's name: Ester Morilion
marriage date: 09 Nov 1652
marriage place: French Protestant, Sandtoft

I can't find any children for Jaques but there is:-

name: Marie Goglar
baptism/christening date: 14 Sep 1679
baptism/christening place: FRENCH HUGUENOT,THORNEY,CAMBRIDGE
father's name: Jean Goglar
mother's name: Marie Du Quen Or Desquien

see this link http://pages.pacificcoast.net/~deboo/flemings/pages/goglar.html

David

[Ology]

Thanks for all the info, that websites great. Maybe Jan is Jean or Jacques in a different marriage. Or perhaps Jean is another son of Jan. It's a shame so many of the records have been lost.

[aussiewhoosh]

I am a direct descendant of Peter Flowers and Maria (Mary) Godwin, they are my 7x great grandparents.
I have spent 30 years meticulously studying the Flowers family from Lincolnshire, I can go back 3 more generations of Flowers from Peter.
I have never been able to locate Maria (Mary) Godwins ancestors though perhaps I will now begin to look along the lines you have mentioned in your post.
If you are interested in the Flowers family drop me a line

Darren M Flowers
Broken Hill NSW
Australia

P.S Peter and Mary are listed in records as Petrius and Maria which I believe was the Latin form of their names.

[JuliaCPeculiar]

This could be Jaques Coquelar/Goglar who moved to Thorney:-

groom's name: Jaques Coquelar
bride's name: Ester Morilion
marriage date: 09 Nov 1652
marriage place: French Protestant, Sandtoft

I can't find any children for Jaques but there is:-

name: Marie Goglar
baptism/christening date: 14 Sep 1679
baptism/christening place: FRENCH HUGUENOT,THORNEY,CAMBRIDGE
father's name: Jean Goglar
mother's name: Marie Du Quen Or Desquien

see this link http://pages.pacificcoast.net/~deboo/flemings/pages/goglar.html

David

My 9 x G Grandmother is Ester Coglar (Coquelar) married in Sandtoft in 1685 to Isaac Vamplue. While trying to trace her parents I came across this post. Could very well be the Jaques and Ester mentioned here. Where did you find the details of their marriage?
Thanks

[Geoff-E]

Where did you find the details of their marriage?

Hi Julia, welcome to RootsChat!

The marriage seems to be in the IGI https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK2B-WJ6