Auchterderran School Records

[Elaine48]

Hi Tara,

I had a quick look at the 1881 census for Fife to see if there were
any HIRD's and there isn't one. There are Thomas Herd's, but no Frank's.
Actually there's no HIRD's at all.

Following the naming patterns it would be expected at least one other with
that name. Another tip is that Frank or Francis is an
Irish/Catholic name. Not always of course but often. His
family may also have been Irish.

The best thing you can do is go to Scotlandspeople and find his birth
cert. With his date of birth and father's name it shouldn't be too
difficult. Once you get that, your puzzle will start to fit together.
We all seem to have someone in our family that is a mystery! I have
a couple too!

Good luck
Elaine

[sancti]

Is there a record for Peter Cochrane Fearns or Ferns

[Elaine48]

No

[sancti]

Are there any Ferns or Fearns mentioned?

[longshanks]

It would be of interest to me to know if there are any bearing the Welsh surname in your school records. My great grandfather left Cardenden before 1890, in his early thirties, but the rest of his brothers and sisters remained in the area, some descendants, mostly not called Welsh anymore, as seems mostly daughters stayed on, in Auchterderran to this day. So I might get some complimentary information to lines I have followed from his siblings, even if my own line will be missing. Cheers

[Elaine48]

You didn't say your name, but here's the Welsh's:

Date of Admission: Sept. 25th 1900
Name: Thomas Welsh
Exact date of Birth: June 30th 1888
Father's name: John Welsh
Address: Cardenden Row
Last school attended: Auchterderran P.S.
Dept. or division attended at last school: Senior
Exact date of leaving: June 25th 1902
Cause of leaving: fourteen years old


Date of Admission: Sept 25th 1900
Name: George Welsh
Father's name: John Welsh
DOB: Jan 16 1890
Address: Cardenden Row
Last school attended: Auchterderran P.S.
Exact date of leaving Dec 8th 1902
Cause of leaving: Transferred to Auchterderran

Date of Admission: Dec 3rd 1906
Name: Christina Welsh
Father's Name: John Welsh
DOB: June 13 1899
Address: Belmont Cottage, Cardenbank?
Last school attended: Auchterderran
Exact date of leaving: June 1907
Cause of leaving: (I think it says removed outwith district)
Notes: Auchterderran P.S.

Date of Admission: Dec 3rd 1906
Name: Isabella Welsh
DOB: Nov. 30th 1896
Father's name: John Welsh
Address: Belmont Cottage Cardenbank
Exact date of leaving June 1907
Cause of leaving: (?removed outwith district)
Notes: Auchterderran P.S.

Date of Admission: March 23 1908
Name: Isabella Welsh
DOB Nov. 30th 1896
Father's name: John Welsh
Address: Summer's Place, Cardenden
Last school attended: Auchterderran
Dept. or division attended: Senior I
Exact date of leaving: Jan 1909
Cause of leaving: Transferred to supplemental ? Auchterderran

Date of Admission: MArch 23 1908
Name: Christina Welsh
DOB: June 13th 1899
Father's name: John Welsh
Address: Summer's Place, Cardenden
Last school attended: Auchterderran
Dept or division:Senior III
Exact date of leaving: Jan 1911
Cause of leaving: Transferred to supplemental ? Auchterderran

Date of Admission: March 23 1908
Name: Wilemina Welsh
DOB: June 3rd 1903
Father's name: John Welsh
Address: Summer's Place, Cardenden
Last school attended: Auchterderran
Dept. or division: Infant
Cause of leaving: (none)

Date of Admission: March 1 1916
Name: James Welsh
DOB: May 26 1902
Father's name: William Welsh
Address: 31 17th St. Bowhill
Last school attended: Denend
Dept or division: Senior I
Exact date of leaving: March 1916
Cause of leaving: Over age

Hope this is useful,
Elaine

[longshanks]

Very many thanks for this information. You said I didn't say who I was, and at the risk of sounding over-the-top, I'm Tom Welsh, son of Tom Welsh, son of Tom Welsh, son of Tom Welsh, who was the brother of John Welsh (Cardenden Row and Summers Place in your information), both of whom were sons of Tom Welsh and Mary Summers in Old Row, Cardenden. I am in touch with John's descendants so can pass on. Of the other brothers there were Alexander (descendants still in area), James (no contact with descendants), Andrew (who built Summers Place, still descendants in area), George (still descendants in area) and David (died unmarried), and nearly as many daughters likewise. Tom Welsh, who married Mary Summers, was born in Cluny, son of Alexander there, apparently son of Thomas, last miller in Cluny (the IGI gives wrong ancestry for Thomas who married Mary). So although three generations removed from Cardenden I have roots there. But that string of information may be useful to some who have links with that line, and I'd be interested to hear from anyone connected.  Many thanks again.

[Elaine48]

You're very welcome, Tom Walsh Jr, Jr, Jr.................! Glad to be
of help. I also have loads of rellies still in Cardenden and do have other
rare photos of the place. I took a look at some of my stuff and found a photo of a M.Welsh in Cardenden Primary School in 1951. If this is a relative and you'd like the
photo please email me privately: *

Elaine

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[Dorothy C]

Hi Elaine,
Would you mind having a look for Forrester's and Goodall's
Regards
Dorothy.