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James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« on: Tuesday 17 April 12 23:03 BST (UK) »
Is it possible James Hardie, McHardie and McHardy are the same person.
James McHardie or Mitchell bo. 3 Mar 1859 Brechin  son of James McHardie and Jess Mitchell    from IGI  more details of the baptism would really help, did they marry ?

Is this the correct marriage ? William Mitchell  &  Catherine Duthie  on 8 Nov 1823 Brechin

1841 C   Witch Den Burn        Brechin
William Mitchell       40
Catherine                 35
Ellen                         18
John                          14
Anne                         12
James                        9
Jess                           7
Christina                   1             All Mitchell's

1851C     Nether Tenements   Brechin
William Mitchell       50     Shoemaker jouneyman       bo. Brechin
Catherine Mitchell  47                                                      bo. Brechin
Ellen Mitchell          25
Jess Mitchell           16
Christina Mitchell   11

1861 C   85 River St.  Brechin
William Mitchell                      60            Shoemaker
Catherine Mitchell                  57                                         bo. Brechin
Helen Mitchell          dau.       36           Linen Weaver     bo. Brechin
Jessie Mitchell                         25           Linen Weaver     bo. Brechin           Is Jessie Mitchell the mother of James McHardy ?
Christina Mitchell                    21
James McHardy   Grandson  2                                          bo. Brechin
Rachel McHardy                       1mon

1881 C   85 River St.  Brechin
Helen Mitchell        H        56
James Hardy    nephew  22    Mason          bo. Brechin                                 
William Ross                     17
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 April 12 10:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Alberbury

The Birth certificate for James will be available here(paysite) -

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

James Mchardie Birth 1859 Brechin Angus

Looking at Rachel Mchardy age 1 month in 1861 and not finding anything except -  :-\

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYGG-3BC

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Re: James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 April 12 13:28 BST (UK) »
You may also want to check this -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYTD-XWL

An online tree has William Ross(Mitchell) as born 85 River St. , Brechin and going to Australia
(Died 1940)
Jessie Mitchell's death is given as 1879 at 85 River St. , Brechin

I note a William Ross with James Hardy in 1881

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Re: James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 April 12 18:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ev
Family Search is a very valuable finding tool, which I use on a regular basis. I believe you have to subscribe to Scotlands People.
A birth and marriage certificate will probably be my next move.

Are Betsey Mitchell and Rachel McHardy the same person ?
Did Jess Mitchell marry either my relation James McHardie or William Ross ?

Yes I agree must get full census returns, was concentrating on my direct line only.
Also good work with the other finds.
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock


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Re: James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 April 12 20:31 BST (UK) »
Not sure about Betsey and Rachel  :-\

SP - 30 credits for £7 , 6 credits per cert. , so not bad if you are sure of the correct ones
Certificates viewable online(Births to 1911 , Marriages to 1936 , Deaths to 1961)


Jessie Mitchell's death cert. should reveal if she married or not

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Re: James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 May 15 19:27 BST (UK) »
http://www.ancestor.abel.co.uk/Angus/Dun.html

A partial listing for the Old Kirkyard of Dun follows. [M1], etc., indicate Mitchell's numbering; [D1], etc., indicate Davidson's numbering of 17th century monuments. Uncertain readings are in parentheses, (); parentheses on the stones are replaced here by braces, {}; square brackets enclose editorial comments.


[M12; p2690] 1866 Erected by WILLIAM MITCHELL boot maker, Brechin. In memory of his father JAMES MITCHELL who died 18th March 1862 aged 68 years Also of his mother MARY STOTT who died 6th Janry 1826, aged 33 years and is intered at Maryton. His step-mother MARGARET ROSS, died 31st Jan. 1881, aged 85 years.

Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 April 16 17:28 BST (UK) »
Page 56
1863 BIRTHS in the District of Brechin in the County of Forfar

                1.                      2.                                                 4.
                          When and Where Born  Name, Surname, & Rank or Profession of Father
                                                            Name, and Maiden Surname of Mother
                                                            Date and Place of Marriage                                                           

No.166  James        1863                 M.    Charles McHardy                              Charles McHardy
             McHardy    July                              Carter                                         Father
                           Twentieth     
                           0h 40m at Ho             Margaret McHardy                            (Not Present)                         
                                                               MS Flanigan
                          1 River Street
                             Brechin                    1857 May Arbroath




6.
When and Where Registered,
and Signature of Registrar.

1863
August 3 d
At Brechin

David Macintosh
    Registrar

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 April 16 17:39 BST (UK) »
Page 20
1859 BIRTHS in the District of Brechin in the County of Forfar


                1.          2.                     3.               4.                     5.

No.58  McHardie    1859                  M.            James              Jess Mitchell
            James       March                               McHardie          Steam Loom
                           Third                                Agricultural       Linen Weaver
                           8h30m A Ho                      Labourer

                         Nether Tenaments
                             Brechin                          (Illegitimate)



6.                                  7.

Jess Mitchell                 1859
Mother                        March 18th
                                 At Brechin
Jas McHardie
  Father                       Daniel Macintosh
Nether Tenaments                 Registrar
     Brechin


http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: James McHardie or Mitchell born 1859 Brechin
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 April 16 18:41 BST (UK) »
1871 Census for Jessie Mitchell ?

+ James McHardie an Agricultural Labourer, the father of her son James   1851 C and 1861 C Brechin.

Did James get married?

Thanks.
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock