Divorce records

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

This looks like the family in the 1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta,


01, Selkirk, Manitoba
Kildonan

BROWN
Fannie      Head    female    widow    54    None     
Myra         Daur    female    single    28   Dressmaker
Ellen         Daur    female    single    24    Saleslady
Dorathy    Daur    female    single    21    Saleslady
Adeline     Daur    female    single    19     Saleslady
Clara        Daur    female    single    16     Saleslady

All
POB: England
Anglican
Immigrated: 1910
Nationality: Canadian
Racial or Tribal Origin:  English
Can speak English
Can't speak French
Can read and write


So Fanny is married in 1911 but calling herself a widow in Canada by 1916.


regards,
Daisy

[adeline B]

Hi Daisy,

I wonder why she would call herself a widow on the census when her husband was still alive.Why not just get divorced Her name is Fanny which is not derived from Frances.So according to 1891 census they were living apart ???I do not know for sure that James Brown was in the UK 1911.I cant find his middle name, if I could find that out it would make researching them easier as there are a few James and fanny Brown for that time period

Thank you for finding the family on the census for me,now I have an Idea of when they came to Canada   

Adeline B

[andycand]

Hi

The following passengers arrived in Quebec Sept 1911 on the Tunisian bound for Winnipeg, Manitoba to her husband, a labourer

Mrs F Brown 41
Myria (sic) Brown 24
Fanny Brown 22
Elsie Brown 21
Corothy Brown 16
Adoline (sic) Brown 13
Clare (sic) Brown 11

I think calling herself a 'widow' was just a way of looking respectable. Divorce was difficult, expensive and possibly messy in those days so they may simply of separated.

Andy

[adeline B]

Hi Andy,

So the story goes my gg grandfather James Brown left Canada to go back to Birmingham and told his family that he would be back in a few months and never came back to Canada Is there anyway to find out when he went back to Birmingham I cant find those shipping records. I really need to find his middle name, all I can find is James Brown with no middle name.

Thanks for the reply
Adeline B

[rosie99]

I really need to find his middle name, all I can find is James Brown with no middle name.

What makes you think he had a middle name?

Have you traced him back before his marriage.  I wonder if police records for his service prior to going to Canada are available.

Rosie

[KGarrad]

Try the link in reply #7.

[stonechat]

Sorry, Frogs, I don't think that's true?

My grandfather divorced in 1926, and I was able to get the records without problems!
Records from 1858-1937 are available through TNA.

Survival rate of the files is 100% for cases 1858-1927, 80% for 1928-1937, but less than 0.2% after 1937.

Search facilities here: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/divorce.htm

I found that my wife's great granparents divorced in 1894 and the papers were definitely makred closed for 100 years

[MargP]

I got my dads divorce papers from there dated 1920

Margp

[andycand]

Hi Adeline

Did either party marry again? If not, then there may not have been a divorce. But if there was a divorce then which would be the applicable country? It does look as if they were last living together in Canada so I would have thought that if Fanny commenced proceedings then it would be in Canada.

Passenger lists for arrivals in the UK from Canada tend to be lacking in detail, you often don't get more than a name such as James Brown, J Brown or even just Mr Brown. age, which is not always accurate, and occupation.

Andy