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Re: Hugh Connor and Mary McNany
« on: Tuesday 07 October 08 18:18 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find where my gg grandparents came from in Ireland but am not sure that I have enough information.

The names involved are Hugh Connor (1881 census says 90!!, but Durham death certificate says 66). He died at Tudhoe, Co. Durham in July 1881). His wife is another problem as her maiden name appears as two different ones on two of the childrens birth certificate. As she could not write, the person writing the census must have just written, based on the phonetics. It came out as Mary McInnerny.
They had 4 children:- Margaret born about 1846
                                   John b 1850
                                   William (my g grandfather) b 1857
                                   Thomas b 1859

They must have moved from Ireland for Hugh to get work in the Durham mines. I would love to know where they came from. As anyone any suggestions?

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Re: Search for ancestors births in Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 18:23 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately civil registration of births in Ireland began in 1864 which is too late for this family. Civil registration of Catholic marriages began in 1864 (from 1845 for other marriages) so am not sure if you will be able to get a marriage certificate either.

Have you traced the parents and all the children in all possible English census records to see if any of them have listed any county of birth in Ireland?

To search for the family in Ireland you really need to know where they lived (parish if not actual townland not just the county).
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Re: Search for ancestors births in Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 19:59 BST (UK) »
aghadowey

You are confirming my worst fears. To my knowledge, only the two parents came from Ireland, but that is all it said on the Census. No location in Ireland. I also sent for the burial records of Hugh Connor, but that was written in Latin.

I am trying to trace back to living relatives of this family to see whether anyone can remember where they came from, but am finding this difficult, but I will keep trying.

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Re: Search for ancestors births in Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 20:22 BST (UK) »
Sorry, forget my previous post! I have just received this info. which might help. I use Find My Past for census info. but they do not yet have 1851. I have now received a copy of the 1851 census, which shows them both coming from Louth. Is this any use?





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Re: Search for ancestors births in Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 20:29 BST (UK) »
It's certainly a start and better than just 'Ireland.' Will get back to you shortly.
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Re: Search for ancestors births in Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 October 08 12:18 BST (UK) »
There's a few Hugh Connor parish record details on line at the pay-per-view site Irish Roots - could not find anything close to McInnerny yet.

   Church Marriage    Connor    Hugh    1825    Co. Louth
   Church Marriage    Connor    Hugh    1828    Co. Louth
   Church Marriage    Connor    Hugh    1833    Co. Louth
   Church Marriage    Connor    Hugh    1840    Co. Louth



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Re: Search for ancestors births in Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 October 08 13:30 BST (UK) »
shanew147

Thanks for looking, however as Mary was born (according to the census) in 1828 and Hugh's latest date of birth was 1815, then only 1840 would be feasible for Hugh and none of those dates for Mary, as she would be too young.

Another variation on Mary's surname was Macnany. This is one of my problems, not knowing what her real surname was, as she could only 'mark' the census.

I know that they were registered as born in Louth per the 1851 census, but do not know when they were married or where specifically, they were born, in Louth.

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Re: Search for ancestors births in Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 October 08 14:53 BST (UK) »
A search of Co. Louth births lists - a Birth of a Michael McInally in 1821, he is the only birth with that surname spelling.

other 'McN' names include

MacNamee /  MacNally / MacNullugh /MacNeil

McNally / McNeany / McNeil / McNemara
McNillow / McNillu / McNiece / McNieve
McNillan / McNillon

McNolty / McNolton    
McNulty    / McNulti    

dont know if any of that helps - but it might give some names to think about....


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Re: Search for ancestors births in Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 October 08 16:42 BST (UK) »
shanew147

Thanks for the name suggestion, MacNamee and McNeany, sound the most likely.

Thanks for taking an interest.


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