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Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham) COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 09 May 12 16:24 BST (UK) »
I'm a bit confused with these Embletons.

I have William Embleton b. 1810 Longhorsley m. Mary Embleton b. 1814 Netherwitton.

There are the following children:
Robert b. 1848 Bothal
Edward b. 1850 Hebron
Thomas b.1850 Hebron
Matthew Storey b. 1853 Fenrother
Dorothy Mary b. 1855 Fenrother

Census information all show the birthplaces as above (or close by) but England & Wales Christening Records show most of the above children as being baptised at Whitley (near Hexham). 

Subsequently, although the children are all resident in the Fenrother area after their marriages, most of their children are again shown as being baptised at Whitley.

I can't see a connection between the families & the two areas or am I being really stupid??

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Re: Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 May 12 23:47 BST (UK) »
Not stupid - they are miles apart.  I suspect they are two different families.

Certainly freereg has the baptisms of Edward and Thomas (twins) as being in Hebron - 17th July 1850.  I haven't checked the others as they may be in different parishes not yet covered but I think this is enough to demonstrate your sanity  ;D

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Re: Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham)
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 May 12 00:22 BST (UK) »

  Netherwitton parish was Longhorsley parish's western neighbour.
  Hebron ( also called Hebburn) parish was Longhorsley parish's southern
neighbour. Bothal parish was Hebron's southern neighbour.

 Fenrother was one of the eight "townships" that made up the parish of Hebron.

 Whitley chapelry, lying to the south of Hexham parish, was 25 miles south west of Hebron. A long trek for baptisms- passing more than a dozen Anglican churches on the way. Unless it was for baptisms in a preferred denomination, not available any nearer ?
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Re: Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 May 12 07:44 BST (UK) »
I thought that they might be different families when I realised how far apart they are but so many of the names & dates agree, although all of the names are common.

I shall have another dig about!

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Re: Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 May 12 00:01 BST (UK) »
It's a shame that the online BTs for the parishes you need do not cover your dates but do have a go at freereg - we now know that two of the ones you list were actually baptised in Hebron so others might be on there also.

If you get stuck give me a shout as I go to Northumberland archives almost every Wednesday so could cross check the Whitley ones with the others.

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Re: Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 May 12 07:09 BST (UK) »
Its just an indexing mistake on Familysearch / Ancestry.  Familysearch has the baptisms down as at Hebron Northumberland, residence Whitley (near Hexham). But they have indexed all Hebron baptisms the same way, as if Hebron Church was in Whitley parish. Ancestry just has them down as at Whitley by Hexham, but they are taken from the same source.
Hebron St. Cuthbert baptisms are on Free Reg as stated by Christine.  The last four are all on there, no mention of Whitley.

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Re: Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 May 12 22:06 BST (UK) »
So, let me get this right, where the Ancestry record shows a baptism at Whitley (near Hexham) it actually relates to a baptism at Hebron?  Unless of course they were actually baptised at Whitley.............!

How did this happen when they are nowhere near each other?

I'll double check all my names with the Free Reg site.

Thanks for all your help - you never let me down!

Carolyn

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Re: Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 May 12 23:07 BST (UK) »
Carolyn,

Just human mistakes when Familysearch did their massive indexing project. We are at the sharp end and are very grateful for their work, massive project, but can see the small mistakes they made. There are probably mechanisms to inform them of the mistakes, I will check tomorrow. Look on FreeReg for your Hebburn (Hebron) records. These are transcribed by local people with local knowledge, mostly directly from the parish registers, so generally very accurate.

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Re: Embleton - Fenrother & Whitley (near Hexham)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 May 12 23:30 BST (UK) »
Alan,

Don't get me wrong, I'm massively grateful for all the work that has been done in transcribing records to get them online.  For people like me who live miles away from the area that they are researching the online resources are invaluable.

And when mistakes are made or brick walls hit, the good folks of RootsChat are there to put us back on the right path!  There's nothing to beat local knowledge - on the rare occasion I'm looking at a record which relates to an area I know I'm often able to recognise a placename that has been transcribed incorrectly.

I have now started to tackle my list of Embletons, double checking them on the Free Reg site - which before now I didn't realise existed!

Carolyn