LADNER Family Mystery

[ashleighn19]

Hi All

I have a small mystery thats slightly bugging me about my 3 x Great Grandmother Josepha Ladner. Josepha was born in Penzance in 1837, the second of what would be 4 children.
I looked up the 1841 census and found the Ladner family in Penzance - Father John, Mother Sarah with kids Will, Angelina and Elizabeth but no Josepha!!
When I looked her up on her own I found her at the Bullock market? Why would she be there? As a four year old? Can anyone tell me what the Bullock Market was (other than a market selling Bullocks - or is it that simple?)
Any help appreciated.
Ashleigh

[down-under]

1841 Madron
 Bullock Market must be an area with some houses and a place that Bullocks were sold

Addresses Near By
Bellevue Terrace
behind Belevue terrace
Bullock Market
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Mary Bessett age 59 laundress
Josepha Ladner age 4
Sarah Jackson age 53 Laundress


Further Down

Fountain Tavern
Prospect Place

Are the ladies with Josepha any relation??


Pam

[Milliepede]

There is a family tree with Mary Bassett as her mother so perhaps the lady she was with in 1841 was one of her relations.

Is she with family in 1851?

[..claire..]

Hi,

This may or may not be relevant but on 26 June 1836 there was a marriage in Madron, Penzance between

Edward LADNER and a Mary BASSETT,

claire

[osprey]

it's Bullock Market Terrace by 1861

http://west-penwith.org.uk/coulson1.htm

Not sure you have the correct family for Josepha. Her baptism shows her parents as Edward & Mary

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=1601560

so Josepha looks to be staying with her granny as Edward married Mary Bassett

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=585241

[..claire..]

Agree with Osprey,

 John And Sarahs 1st. Child William Henry was bp. 3 Nov. 1837,

claire

[down-under]

1841 Mary Bessett looks like Bassett

1851 H0107/1918 folio 456 Page 5 Madron Cornwall Reg district Penzance

Edward ladner age 36 Gardeners Lab born Sennen Cornwall
Mary wife age 36 Kemvin??Cornwall
Mary Ann dau age 10 Madron
Wm son age 7 Madron

1841 H0107/143/1 folio 26 page 10 Madron Cornwall

Edward Ladner age 25 lab both born in county
Mary age 25

Josepha may be with grandmother because Mary is due again, looking at the age of Mary Ann 1851


Pam

[osprey]

Mary's place of birth says Kenwin, more usually Kenwyn

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Kenwyn/

[Cara59]

Hi, I don't know if you're still looking at this, but I have just found them.  Mary Basset was Josepha's grandmother.  Edward Ladner married her daughter also Mary in 1836, Josepha was born in 1837 and Mary died in 1838.  Edward went on to marry Sally Bramble in 1840.  They had several children together and some time between 1847 and 51 emigrated to Australia.  They appear with Josepha on Find a Grave : http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=133106170&ref=acom.  I'm descended from Edward's brother Thomas, but am finding the Australian connection fascinating.  The other Edward Ladner with Mary Ann and William is a red herring.  I can't yet find them on a passenger list, but they were farmers so I think they would have gone by assisted passage to South Australia (Adelaide).  They ended up in Bendigo (Victoria).  Hope that's of interest