Taylor-Barden Australia

[lincee]

Hello Robert,
No I am still no further advanced with finding deaths for both James and Emma Taylor.  The last positive sighting for James was when he was informant on death certificate for son in law James William Somerfield/Summerfield 14 January 1862 at Lambing Flat NSW Australia.
Cheers Lincee

[RGS]

Hi Lincee,
Very frustrating when you come to dead ends especially with a common name, where do you fit into the picture? F.C.M. Taylor, was my Gmother Edward Taylor her father. The Young, Murrumburra and Wombat areas seems where most of James & Emma's children settled.
Edward was in the area since at least 1868 the birth of his first child Adeline, to Jane Chambers. Sarah from at least the death of Somerfield 1862, Catherine from at least 1864 marriage with Birch, so maybe their parents followed them.
I found these Deaths for Young from NSW BDM, but haven't gone any deeper yet.

9573/1913/TAYLOR/EMMA/HENRY/RHODA/YOUNG
 
36962/1887/TAYLOR/JAMES/JAMES J/MARY/YOUNG
26783/1879/TAYLOR/JAMES/GEORGE WILLIAM/MARY ANN/YOUNG

But of coarse they may have died elsewhere

2989/1856/TAYLOR/EMMA/JAMES/SARAH/PARRAMATTA

I think this could be William their 3rd son.
15838/1919/TAYLOR/WILLIAM/JAMES/ EMMA/GRANVILLE

Good hunting, if I find anything I will post it.

Robert

[RGS]

OOOPS!

The James Taylor deaths at young are miss-transcribed they are actually births.

The only death NSW BDM at young is;
11358/1881    TAYLOR    JAMES    UNKNOWN    UNKNOWN    YOUNG

Convict James Taylor, Marquis of Huntley, fits occupation of James Taylor on Sarah 1837 birth registration.
NAME -SARAH TAYLOR
DATE OF BIRTH -6/5/1837
DATE OF BAPTISM -4/6/1837
FATHER -JAMES TAYLOR
OCCUPATION -DYER
MOTHER -EMMA TAYLOR
RESIDENCE -RICHMOND


James Taylor
Birth; given as Salford 1803
Age; 27
Occupation; Dyer
Trial Date; 4th May 1829
Prisoner No. 30/1464
Transported; 7yrs for stealing a watch.
Ship; Marquise of Huntley (3)
Master; Ainscough (Ascough)
Ticket of Leave, granted; November 1834
Certifcate of Freedom, granted; May 1836

Info courtesy of radcliff,

Regards Robert

[lincee]

Hello Robert,

Thank you for the information.  Do you possibly have a copy of the birth/baptism of Edward Taylor?  Unfortunately my local library did not have the microfilm for the series 158.

There are a few puzzling questions from the other births and I am not sure if they are part of the same family aside from the late marriage of Emma and James.

Sarah Taylor was baptised 4 June 1837 Parish of Richmond Cumberland (born 6 May but no year given).  Parents James and Emma Taylor abode Richmond.  James occupation dyer.  Henry I Stiles Minister.

Robert Taylor was baptised 8 July 1838 Parish of Richmond Cumberland (born 6 June 1838) to Emma and James Taylor.  James Taylor occupation farmer.  Minister Henry I Stiles. 

This was the same minister who married Emma Barden and James Taylor but not until 1840 at Church of England Richmond.

Lincee
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[lincee]

Hello Robert,

Sorry will continue this message.

In the year 1848 a Catherine Taylor of the Parish of Ashfield who was born 12 February 1845 was baptised 30 January 1848.  Parents James and Emma Taylor.  Abode Ashfield.  James occupation labourer.  Minister F. Wilkinson.

Also in the year 1848 a William Taylor of the Parish of Ashfield who was born 6 February 1843 was baptised 30 January 1848.  Parents James and Emma Taylor.  Abode Ashfield.  James occupation labourer.  Minister F. Wilkinson.

Also in the Parish of Cumberland Hunter's Hill 1855 a John Taylor was baptised 8 October 1855.  He was born 6 October 1855 to James and Emma Taylor.  Abode Hunter's Hill.  His occupation labourer. Minister Rev. George E. Turner.

Therefore I am not sure how may children James and Emma (Barden) Taylor had.  The only other James Taylor and Emma Dowen marrying in NSW was in 1849.

I have been researching Sarah Taylor's family.

I am interested to  find Edward's birth details.

Regards Lincee

[RGS]

Hi Lincee,
This is from IGI.

name: Edward Taylor
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 May 1840
baptism/christening place: RICHMOND, NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA
birth date: 24 Apr 1840
death date: 9 Oct 1926
father's name:James Taylor
mother's name:Emma

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=614009.new#new
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,612516.0.html

Have a look at these two topics, names etc are listed, there were two James and Emma Taylors, the second lot going by NSW BDM had 7 children from 1857-67 at Ryde.

Robert

[RGS]

Hi
A bit of trivia, in regards to Edward Taylor's death he died Murrumburra/Harden, and was buried Young.
My mother 89, recalls going to visit Young, cemetery from Quandialla around 1930ish, with her mother F.C.M Taylor, to view Edward's grave, only to find the headstone had fallen over, the reason she recalled this is that they both tried in vain to righten it.

Robert.

 

[lincee]

Hello Robert,
Thank you for your messages and links.  It is good to see that I am heading down the same path with this family except for finding the elusive James and Emma Taylor.
When Sarah Taylor married James William Summerfield, Sarah was living in the Parish of Armidale although both parents James and Emma (and J.W. Summerfield) were all from Sydney.
I have also in the past had a look at the life and family of Thomas Parnell from information on the internet to find an explanation as to why Sarah might be in Armidale and perhaps why James and Emma were tripping around the state and also I have read the book by Elizabeth Rushen "Single and Free" to find out what was noted on Emma Barden.  It was mentioned in the book that the Sydney Colonial Secretary Alexander Macleay had written a "B" list of the women on the Canton describing them more fully so I am wondering if this "B" list is available to view at the Mitchell Library in Sydney or at Kingswood.  I also had a look at the family tree's of the Bell family on the internet.  When J. W. Summerfield died at Lambing Flat in 1862 James Taylor (informant on D/C) may have been at the gold diggings there because J.W. Summerfield's cause of death: haemorrhage from wound to groin, three weeks prior.  Occupation - gold miner.  I had a look at Trove to see what was happending at that time and the miners were rioting then and several were injured.
Yes I can also understand why the headstone of Edward Taylor has fallen over.  It does look very heavy and Catherine/Katherine Birch's looks a little weather beaten as well. 
Regards Lincee

[lincee]

Hi Again,
Do you know if anyone has applied for the death certificate for the James Taylor who died at Young in 1881?
Cheers Lincee