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Offline treddz

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Turner Family of Rowley Regis
« on: Thursday 07 June 12 15:00 BST (UK) »
Just trying to put the finishing touches to the Turner family.
I am trying to find out if any of the following married
and the years they died.
They are the children of Thomas Turner 1803-1869
and Jemima Turner 1811-1873. If this Jemima rings any bells
in your family tree with a different surname.
Thomas Turner 1832 last mentioned in the 1861 census for Dudley
Sarah Ann Turner 1834 last mentioned in the 1861 census for Dudley.
Thank you
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Re: Turner Family of Rowley Regis
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 June 12 10:40 BST (UK) »
Dear Treddz,
Not in my family tree but you may want to look at the 1871 census 3015 120 17
Thomas Turner 38 Puddler Rowley
Mary Ann 37 nailor Dudley
Jemima 10  Tipton
Mary Louisa 8 Tipton
Sarah 6 Tipton.
Wife's possible father living next door
John Thompson 72 retired charter master wid from Dudley fits with marriage Dec 1858 to Mary Ann Thompson Dudley 6c 91.
Although in 1861 he is living with wife Mary Ann,Jemima and brother James 24 coal miner Kate's Hill at Bridge Road Tipton.
1881 Cawney Hill Tipton
Thomas  48 bar weigher Tipton
Mary Ann   47 Netherton
Mary Louise 18 boot binder Tipton
Sarah  16 Tipton
As for Sarah Ann there is a schoolmistress working at the Workhouse in Gornal in 1871 single age 35 from Dudley which could fit,and a death  Mar 1874 Dudley age 39 6c 25.
Hope that helps
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Re: Turner Family of Rowley Regis
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 June 12 13:35 BST (UK) »
This is them in 1841 I am pretty sure;

1841 Census
Freebodies or Treebodies,
Dudley, Worcestershire
Thomas TURNER, 30, Coal Miner
Mary, 25
Thomas, 9
Sarah, 7
James, 4
Joseph, 1

1851 Census Sarah/James/Joseph are down as born Dudley 1834/1836/1840
Looks like Jemima is down as Mary in 1841 (I see no Trees have this Census)
Christenings;
St Thomas, Dudley, Worcestershire to THOMAS/JEMIMA Turner:
THOMAS 17 March 1833
SARAH ANN 09 November 1834
JAMES 05 March 1837 (birth 02 Dec 1836)
JOSEPH 14 June 1840 (birth 19 May 1840)
MARY ANN 11 June 1843 (birth 15 May 1843)
HANNAH 14 December 1845 (birth 17 Nov 1845)
JOHN 31 March 1850 (birth 19 Feb 1850)

Probable Marriage;
Thomas TURNOR Married Jemimah HILL 17 September 1832, Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Stafford, England

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Possible Christening;
Jemima HILL, 07 July 1811, Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Parents, HARTSHORNE and SARAH

Hartshorne HILL Married Sarah PENN, 02 November 1789, Stafford, England

You would need a Childs Birth Cert to confirm Jemimas maiden name.

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Re: Turner Family of Rowley Regis
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 23:10 BST (UK) »
I am the g'granddaughter of Hiram Hill.  His parents were Hartshorn and Sarah Penn Hill and he had a younger sister Jemima.  I would be interested in any info you have found because I am also the g'granddaughter of Turners from West Bromwich.  Thanks.

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Re: Turner Family of Rowley Regis
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 August 17 23:09 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I have just come across your post.  Thomas Turner (1808-1869, coal miner) and Jemima Hill (Jan 19 1806?-Aug 29 1973) had, I believe, 8 children--Thomas (b. Mar 17 1833), Sarah Ann (b. Nov 9 1834), James (b. Mar 5 1837), Joseph (b. Jun 14 1840), Mary Ann (b. Jun 11 1843), John (b. Mar 31 1850), Louisa (b. Jan 1851), and Hannah.  I am descended from Hannah (Nov 17 1845-early 1870s).  She married William Smith (Jan 3 1833-early 1870s), son of William Smith, a miner, on Nov 13 1864.  They resided in various places in Staffordshire.  William Smith was a steel roller.  They had two children, William Albert Smith (Aug 2 1865-May 5 1920), born at Tipton, and Louisa A. Smith (Oct 7 1867-Jul 5 1942) born at Tunstall.  The children were minors at the time of their parents death and were placed in a home for orphans. I have not specifically located the death records for William and Hannah.  There is a death record from Nov 9 1871 for a Hannah Smith, wife of a forgeman, William Smith, but the age does not match.  I have not confirmed the family in the 1871 census.  When she was reached her majority, Louisa was sent to Canada as a servant, arriving on 26 Jul 1884. Family legend says that William stowed away on the same ship.  Louisa later married a man named Loring and lived in Toronto, Canada until 1907, when she moved to Rock Island, Illinois.  William, my ancestor, moved to the USA and married Elizabeth Carrie McGinnis (Sep 15 1867-Feb 26 1903) of Rome, New York, on Aug 16 1899.  They settled in Rock Island immediately after their marriage.  He also was a steel roller and died as the result of spill of molten metal.  They had two children, Mary Elizabeth Smith (Aug 17 1900-Oct 18 1986) and William Edward Smith (Nov 24 1901-May 2 1969).  Mary Smith married James William Ryan on Mar 16 1920.  They resided in Rock Island, Illinois.  They had three children, Mary Margaret Ryan (May 11 1920-Sep 24 2006), James William Ryan Jr. (May 5 1926-Jan 14 1998), and Barbara Jean Ryan (Nov 21 1929-Jun 20 2008). The eldest, Mary, married Samuel Robert Holcomb (April 16 1917-April 14 1977) on Jan 4 1942.  The marriage lasted only about 3 years.  They had one son. She lived in Rock Island until 2001 when she moved to Anaheim, California to be near her son.  James Jr. married Dorothy Ann Moellering (Apr 22 1926-Dec 14 2012) on Aug 18 1946.  They had three children, two sons and a daughter.  They lived in Rock Island.  Barabara was married less than a year to Robert Nelson (no info), then to Alvin Emil Hintze (Jul 24 1925-Mar 8 1998).  Alvin had a daughter by a previous marriage, and they had one son (lost immediately after birth) and two daughters.  Barbara family moved to Tucson, Arizona, in the 1970s.  William E. Smith lived in Rock Island and Milan, Illinois.  He was initially married to Marie Hansen and had a daughter, Dorothy Alice Smith (1921-?), who moved to Southern California when the couple divorced.  Subsequently, he married Mildred H. Work (Dec 12 1907-Oct 12 1985).  They had one son who died at birth.  I don't know how much of this is relevant to your project, but I hope you find some of it useful.  I would be interested in the work you have done in tracing the turner family if you would tell me where I can find it.