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Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« on: Saturday 09 June 12 22:22 BST (UK) »
Thread to document missing, or possibly missing, streets or townlands from the 1901 and or 1911 census returns. Reply to this thread with possible additions, and these will be added to the list.

Note the names of some townlands are mistranscribed, or recorded as variants, so may not be easy to locate.

The list could eventually help in correcting the census returns.

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Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 June 12 22:35 BST (UK) »
Leinster

1911

   Dublin City - Rotunda Ward ?, Synott Place,
   Dublin City - Rotunda/Inn's Quay Wards, part Dorset St. Upr (No.s 72 to 84)

   Dublin -      Alma Terrace,  Anna Villa Lower & Upper, Annesley Park, Appian Way,
     Arranmore Villas, Ashbrook Terrace, Ashfield Avenue, Ashfield Road,
     Avondale Road, Avondale Villas, Banna Villa,
     Beechwood Avenue Lower & Upper,  Beechwood Road, Belgrave Place,
     Belgrave Road, Belgrave Square, Belgrave Terrace, Belgrave Villas,
     Bessborough Parade, Byrne's Cottages (Milltown), Cambridge Road
       (never filmed, status of forms unknown...)

   Co. Louth - Haggardstown DED, Black Rock town

   Co. Kildare - Caragh/Carragh DED, townlands of
     Carragh, Castlekeely, Derreens
     Gingerstown, Halverstown, Raheens

1901

   Dublin City - part of John Dillon St / also missing originals
   Dublin City - Rotunda/Inn's Quay Wards, part Dorset St. Upr ? Located
   Dublin City - Usher's Quay Ward, Old Kilmainham
  Dublin - Rathmines & Rathgar East DED, Albany Terrace, Albert Terrace
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Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 June 12 22:36 BST (UK) »
Ulster

1911

Armagh - Crossmaglen town, Crossmaglen DED
Brown's Lane, Carrick Street, Creggan Street, Dundalk Street,
Dundalk Road, Newtownhamilton Street, North Street, The Square.
(forms appear to be missing)

1901

Down - Greencastle DED, Greencastle townland
(forms seem to have survived - see : link)
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Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 June 12 22:47 BST (UK) »
1911 Parts of Caragh/Carragh Co.Kildare.
going by the list on the Census 1901 v 1911
Carragh
Castlekeely
Derreens
Gingerstown
Halverstown
Raheens

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Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 June 12 05:43 BST (UK) »
1901 Old Kilmainham missing? Looking for number 45 but can't find any street listing or under family name of O'Malley.

[sorry, forgot to put that this is from Dublin City]
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 June 12 15:14 BST (UK) »
Amagh- Crossmaglen. Most of the town of Crossmaglen is missing from the 1911 census. The missing streets are
Brown's Lane
Carrick Street
Creggan Street
Dundalk Street
Dundalk Road
Newtownhamilton Street
North Street
The Square.

When I tried to bring it up with the National Archives. I got absolutely no explanation. I requested and saw the actual census sheets for Crossmaglen, but the file was largely empty and no one seemed to know why the relevant sheets were missing. There seemed to be no record of what happened to the census sheets. I have all the above streets for 1901 and as this is where my ancestors lived I am familiar with where they should have been living at that time.

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Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 June 12 17:30 BST (UK) »
1901 Census. Dublin, Rathmines & Rathgar East DED. The following streets are missing:-

   Albany Terrace
   Albert Terrace
   Alma Terrace
   Anna Villa Lower
   Anna Villa Upper
   Annesley Park
   Appian Way
   Arranmore Villas
   Ashbrook Terrace
   Ashfield Avenue
   Ashfield Road
   Avondale Road
   Avondale Villas
   Banna Villa
   Beechwood Avenue Lower.
   Beechwood Avenue Upper.
   Beechwood Road
   Belgrave Place
   Belgrave Road
   Belgrave Square
   Belgrave Terrace
   Belgrave Villas
   Bessborough Parade
   Byrne's Cottages, Milltown
   Cambridge Road

Inquiring about this in the National Archives some months ago, I was told the returns for these streets were never filmed.
O'Brien, Keogh, Byrne, Cuffe, Kelly, White, Burke, Blosset, Evans, Hetherington, Hosey, Williams, Wright, Comerford, Carey, McKeon, Litton, O'Reilly, O'Toole, Nugent, Traynor, Broughall.

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Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 June 12 17:37 BST (UK) »
Terraces were often not listed on their own (in Dublin city and suburbs anyway) - but appear as part of the street they were on, so are not specifically named, although details sometimes appear on the building returns.


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Re: Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 June 12 19:04 BST (UK) »
Not all terraces are groups of houses on a street with another name. Some are small streets in their own right. This is certainly the case with some, though probably not all, of the terraces listed in my post. Whatever the status of the terraces, all of the places in my post are shown individually in the 1911 census. I discovered the gap in coverage in the 1901 online returns when searching for Bessborough Parade. Not finding it, I compared the lists for the Rathmines & Rathgar East electoral division in 1901 and 1911 and was surprised at the extent of the ommissions. It was when I later sought out the microfilms for the area in the National Archives that I was told the returns for some of the streets had not been filmed. I saw the paper returns for Bessborough Parade in the Archives years ago and got the information I needed but I would have liked to have had an image of the return completed by my great grandmother.
O'Brien, Keogh, Byrne, Cuffe, Kelly, White, Burke, Blosset, Evans, Hetherington, Hosey, Williams, Wright, Comerford, Carey, McKeon, Litton, O'Reilly, O'Toole, Nugent, Traynor, Broughall.