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Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« on: Monday 11 June 12 10:54 BST (UK) »
Can you please help with any information on Leslie A Jay said to have gone to Southern Rhodesia shortly after his marriage in 1954 to a Jean Cardwell.
He apparently returned to home roots in Cheshunt Hertfordshire about 1961 staying for about 3 months then supposedly returned to Rhodesia, no contact with family since.
Any help would be most appreciated.
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Re: Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 June 12 15:37 BST (UK) »
hi
well i,ve been through the passenger records on FindMyPast and i can,t find them leaving in the 50,s the only one then is for an unmarried nurse even when i took out rhodesia and left destination blank nothing shows , so tried births using jay for father and mothers name cardwell no specific records show but all those that came up with numerous spellings of jay/ jayes and so on for germany one in malasia the indian continent but none for rhodesia or even south africa , so hopefully someone will find an incoming passenger record on ancestry but bear in mind that for outgoing passenger list it stops in 1960 as the argument is that more people were flying by then that records weren,t kept anymore same with in coming lists they cut off at 1960 .
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Re: Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 June 12 01:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Trevor
Thank you so much for your effort and time.  Leslie seems to have been a bit of a mystery, I'm wondering whether the Rhodesia story was actually correct although family members seem to be sure of it.

Thanks again
Pamela
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Re: Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 June 12 22:32 BST (UK) »
hi pamela
it,s no problem that,s why we do this it keeps the little grey cells working , i,ve been having another look round and found a death for a jean jay, bristol glocs  1987, born 1 march 1934  vol22  page 480  reg no 687 now this is pure speculation wether it is your jean or not also looked for a leslie jay but couldn,t see one in find my past or free bmd .
now the other thing i should have thought of yesterday whilst running on about passenger records was the fact that although both incoming and outgoing passenger records cut off in 1960  it  is possible that leslie and jean flew to rhodesia in 1954 hence why there is no record for them it no doubt was more expensive but is  a real possibility .
i also did a google search for rhodesian records and zimbabwean but didn,t get far although there is this site www.lind.org.zw/genweb/index.htm have a look at it as there is a find a friend or relation section where you can leave a message as well as a gen web forum , see what you think .
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Re: Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 June 12 02:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Trevor, thanks again you have been most helpful.
I think you must be right about the flying to Rhodesia. The family member who passed this little mystery on to me only knew what I've already stated other than he thought he remembered Leslie telling his family in Cheshunt, Herts,  when he showed up in 1961, that he had a son but was going to divorce his wife Jean. Unfortunately I have no idea when this Jean was born or where but if they were divorcing I suppose it would be a possibility for her to return and live in Gloucs.
I will check out the site you kindly mentioned.

Thank you
Pamela
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Re: Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 June 12 11:06 BST (UK) »
Hi I had some missing relatives living in Rhodesia, I put a notice on the Lind website, 18 months later a nephew contacted me and the rest is history. Good luck Derek.
Austin, Ayling, Alborough, Bescoby, Cheal, Groom,Rathbone,Tarboton,Lyell and Smith.

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Re: Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 June 12 11:12 BST (UK) »
If he was born in 1923, might he not still  be alive?  In which case...

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Re: Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 June 12 02:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Derek and Mike
Thanks for your input. I've tried getting on the Lind site,  having hiccups but will try again and yes Mike the fact that he may still be alive is a possibility which means I have to be careful and not break any rules, (wouldn't want to do that).
Originally I was trying to find his travel info' but as it's been pointed out the period I'm looking at stopped being recorded and of course he may well have flown which means I won't find anything there.
I was hoping to confirm that he actually went back to Rhodesia for an elderly relative of his.
Thank you both for your interest
Pamela
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Re: Leslie A Jay b.1923 England
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 June 12 06:47 BST (UK) »
Either way, good luck with the search, Pam!   :)

Mike