John SAUNDERS Census help please(COMPLETED)

[rodhill]

I have a John SAUNDERS born 1819 Long Bredy
In the 1841 Census he was at Lyme Regis with his mother Joan SAUNDERS born about 1795 Long Bredy I believe.
He married an Elizabeth ?
Joan died abt 1874 Lyme Regis


Can anyone find him on later Census please

It would be most appreciated if some could assist me please
Rod

[groom]

Hi  1851   Piece: 1861 Folio: 95 Page: 1   

Grove House, Burton Bradstock


  Joan Saunders   Head   Widow   F   58        Agricultural Labr                        Long Breedy, Dorset       
  John Saunders   Son   Unmarried   M   31        Agricultural Labr                        Long Breedy, Dorset       
  David Phillips   Lodger   Unmarried   M   19        Agricultural Labr                        Broadwindsor, Dorset       
  Elizabeth Aplin Lodger   Unmarried   F   20        Factory Servant                         Broadwindsor, Dorset

I wonder whether that was the Elizabeth he married?

Jan

[rodhill]

Thanks Groom
Much appreciated

 I could well be as I have never found a marriage for John and Elizabeth. Finding him on the census may narrow do when he married and hopefully which area.


Rod

[groom]

I think you might have to be careful, as there could be another family with similar names and ages.

In 1861 there is this family living in Lyme Regis  RG9.1370/73/41

John Saunders         head  41     Greenwich Pensioner     Long Bredy
Elizabeth Saunders  wife    35     Lace Maker                    Sidmouth
Sarah Saunders       mother  68   Braider of twine            Long Bredy

I dont think they are yours though.

Jan

[groom]

Rod

Do you have access to Ancestry? There is a tree with this family on there, although they have attached the last census details I gave you to it. They have John's parents as Robert Saunders 1797 -1888 and Joan Hayes 1793 - 1874.

I thought this was wrong as Joan is described as a widow in 1851, however they have Robert as being imprisoned in 1820 and transported to Tasmania for 7 years in 1821. He stayed there, remarried and died there. It might be worth you contacting the owner of this tree as they seem to have it well sourced.

Jan

[trish1120]

Richard SAUNDERS Married Joan HAYNES 20 December 1818, Long Bredy, Dorset
(Source Familysearch.Org)'

Joan HAYNES was Christened 24 Feb 1793, Long Bredy to JOHN/CATHERINE

1871 Census
Broad Street,
Lyme, Dorset
RG10/2031/50/55
John SANNDEN, 57, Head, Mar, Laborer, born Longbridge, Dorset
Elizabeth Sannden, 45, Wife, Mar, born Sidmouth, Dorset
Joan Sannden, 78, Mother, Widow, born Longbridg, Dorset

Image is Saunders and POB is Long Bredy for John/Joan.
Typed as Transcribed. I have sent in a correction.

Trish

[janan]

Robert Saunders of this parish and Joan Haynes of this parish married in Long Bredy by Banns with consent of parents 20th December 1818 both made their mark. Witnesses were John Spencer and W?? Gilham

Hope this helps

Jan

A Robert Saunders was sentenced to 7 yrs transportation for larceny in Somerset Jul 1820 , when transported in 1821 he was 23 a native of Cheddington, which is in Dorset.

[trish1120]

This looks a likely match;
Elizabeth HAM, born 1826, Sidmouth, Devon, Servant, living in Cheltenham, Glous in 1851
HO107/1973/682/27

Marriage Reg;
John SAUNDERS, Sept 1859, Axminster, 5b 39
Elizabeth Mary Snell HAM is on the page
+ Isaac WARR and Mary Ann RATTENBURY
(Followed Isaac in 1861 with Wife now a Mary Ann with her Children Georgina/Emily Rattenbury there)
So this John must have Married Elizabeth Ham

Trish

[trish1120]

Elizabeth Mary HAM
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 May 1825
Higher Meeting Presbyterian, Sidmouth, Devon England
Birth Date:    20 Apr 1825
Parents JAMES NICHOLAS Ham and MARY
(Familysearch.Org)

1841 Census a MARY Ham 45 and ELIZABETH Ham 15 are in the Household of Dowager Lady Audley in Sidmouth, Devon.
HO107/208/11/Sidmouth