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Thomas Henry Morgan
« on: Monday 25 June 12 15:30 BST (UK) »
Searching for ancestors of Thomas Henry Morgan (Born 1892 Gilfach, Glamorgan, Wales) married 1913-12-01 to Beatrice Ann Fortt (Born 1888).

I know his father is Joseph Morgan (Born 1869 Llandyfodwg, Glamorganshire,Wales). His mother is Jannet (I have no surname yet).

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Re: Thomas Henry Morgan
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 June 12 10:26 BST (UK) »
working back through the census years

1901 10 Fair View Tce, Gilfach Goch RG13/5008 foliol 60 pg 27
Joseph Morgan head mar 32 colliery roadman below ground
Jannet wife 32 b. Lancashire
Thomas son 9
William John son 6
Jannet A dau 5
Mary J dau 2
all born Gilfach Goch unless noted

1891 6 Penllwyngwent Row, Gilfach Goch RG12/4451 folio 141 pg 12
Joseph Morgan head mar 22 coal miner b. Gilfach Goch
Jennet wife 22 b. Yorkshire
David son 10 months b. Gilfach Goch

likely marriage
Joseph Morgans march qtr 1890 Bridgend vol 11a pg 752 with Jennet Jones on the same page

1881 Cottage, Gilfach Goch, Llandyfodwg RG11/5328 folio 58 pg 25
David Morgans head mar 40 fireman b. Merthyr
Jane wife 53 b. Mon, Rhymney
William Nicholas stepson 25 collier b. Rhymney
Evan Nicholas stepson collier 19 b. Rhymney
Joseph Morgan son 13 b. Gilfach Goch
Thomas Davies boarder 42 labourer b. Breconshire

1871 for the family I've given you on a different thread.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Henry Morgan
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 June 12 11:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you.

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Re: Thomas Henry Morgan
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 July 12 11:57 BST (UK) »
Marriage certificate arrived. It confirms Joseph Morgan's father as David Morgan who was a labourer. Jannet Jones father was David Jones who was an Collier or Roller (Hard to make out what it says). They both resided at Gilfach Goch, Rhondda Cynon Taff, South Wales.

Can anyone help me find the mother of Jannet/Jennet Jones?

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Re: Thomas Henry Morgan
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 July 12 14:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Curtis

How about ...............

1881 RG11 5298 126 8 - Civil Parish Llantrisant - Address Griffin Hotel
Janett Jones is an unmarried general servant 12yrs old b Gla? Yorkshire

1871 RG10 4207 69 19 - Civil Parish Preston - Address 3 Fleetwood St
David Jones head mar 36 Wales Glamorganshire - Iron roller
Mary wife 35 Wales Glamorganshire
John son 16 Wales Glamorganshire - Forge Boy
Henry J son 13 Yorkshire Leeds - I think it reads "learning to weave"
Margaret daugh 11 Yorkshire Leeds - I think it reads "stops at home"
David son 9 Yorkshire Leeds
Jeannette daugh 2 Yorkshire Leeds
Lewis son 4mths Lancashire Preston

1861 RG9 3451 32 17 - Civil Parish Nether Hoyland - Address ?
David Jones Head mar 28 Llangynwyd Glam - ? at Iron Works
Mary wife 25 Dowlais - Dressmaker
John son 7 Maesteg Glam
Henry J son 4 Yorks Elsecar
Margaret daugh 1mth Yorks Elsecar

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Re: Thomas Henry Morgan
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 12 July 12 15:13 BST (UK) »
Hi again

This looks like David Jones the father of Jannet/Jennett/Jeannette Jones etc .................

1881 RG11 5298 127 10 - Civil Parish Llantrisant - Address Gilfach Coch
Thomas Hathaway head mar 29 Gloucester Cheltenham - Colliery Lab
Sarah Ann wife 29 ? Somerset - Dressmaker
Thomas son 7 Ystradfodwg Glam
David Jones Boarder widow 46 Llangynwyd Glam - Colliery Lab - Coal miner
Lewis Jones Boarder 10 Lancs Preston
Edward Jones Boarder 24 Rowley Dudley Staffs - Colliery Lab

So it looks as though David is a widow but unfortunatley with a surname of Jones and a few possibilities on Freebmd I am struggling to find for certain a marriage for David Jones and Mary which would give her maiden name ???

Maybe someone else might be able to help although you could always order a copy of one the children's birth certificates which would give you Mary's maiden name.

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Re: Thomas Henry Morgan
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 July 12 17:48 BST (UK) »
Is this the correct certificate to order?

Births Sep 1869   (>99%)
Jones    Jeannette Anne        Wirral    8a   398

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Re: Thomas Henry Morgan
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 July 12 19:26 BST (UK) »
this would perhaps be more likely for a Yorkshire birth?

Janet Ann Jones
Apr-Jun 1869
Saddleworth, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume 9a, page 239

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Re: Thomas Henry Morgan
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 July 12 19:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I didn't see that one when I was searching on FreeBMD.