MI's Auchterderran, Fife

[Janet Mc]

Looking for a death of a John Williamson (child of James W and Margaret PHILP) after 1783 and his brother, Thomas after 1787.

Also looking and hoping to find if Margaret (Philp) Williamson is buried there after 1793 and before 1820.

She may also be buried in Kinross (as was married there in 1779) or Dunfermline (earliest two children born there) or Kirkaldy where the family seems to have ended up OR ? anywhere else in Fife.

Am trying to prove if this lady is the mother of a James Williamson (1779-1824) who was a grocer and spirit's dealer in Kirkaldy and married Elizabeth Whyte there in 1806.

Thanks for any help you can give.

[Janet Mc]

Re-asking - is there a death/burial for a Margaret (Philp/Philip) WILLIAMSON in this area for 1793-1820? There may also be some infant sons - Thomas and John.

Thanks for any help.

[diddymiller]

too many possibles for John & Thomas with records only giving name & date - sometimes age.

can't find Margaret either - same problem - too many to know,

using fife CD & MI's.

Diddy

[Janet Mc]

What about for a James Williamson and margaret SEATH post 1751 (possibly of Dunbog)?

Thank you so much.

[diddymiller]

fife CD:

James Williamson of Dunbog  bur. 8/3/1840

12 Margaret Seaths on CD but no obvious link to James / Dunbog

Diddy

[Janet Mc]

I'd say that that James Williamson of Dunbog is too old. - He'd be more than 100. Unless it is his son, brother of Archibald - and then this family is not related to 'my' James Williamson of Kirkaldy (c1751-1832).

Is there any hint how old that JW is? Is there an Archibald and family dying in the area? Did Archibald have a son, James (likely if it was both his father and brother's name)? Perhaps the 1840 burial is a son of Archibald.

The reason I believe that this couple - James Williamson and Margaret Seath married 1748 in Dunbog is 'my' family is that the younger James Williamson had a witness Archibald W for one of his children's christening. It is not such a common name. Also JW's death in 1832 gives his age and so it all fit with this Dunbog family.

Thanks for your help. You and Norry are the stars of Fife area. We overseas folk really appreciate it.

[diddymiller]

you didn't give me marriage date to use.

there are 10 Archibald Williamsons on the CD. one in collessie seems only near one died 1776  no further info. couple of others shipowners/mariners.

Diddy

[Janet Mc]

James WILLIAMSON & Margaret SEATH1 married 22 July 1748 in Dunbog, FIFE (marriage register has no witnesses but says both were of Monomail parish)
Their children:
1) Archibald  28 August 1749 Monimail2
2) James 20 January 1751 Monimail

The reason I've chosen this Archibald is that when James Williamson (first a weaver and then a grocer/spirit merchant of Kirkaldy) died in 1832 it said his death age and it comes out as born c 1751 (plus or minus a year). So I'm looking for a James born that time with a relative (possibly brother -Archibald) who is witness for a birth of one of JW (1751-1832) grandson's in 1814

James WILLIAMSON  and Margaret PHILP married on 29 or 31 January 1779 at Kinross, Kinross, Scotland. James was born about 1751 and died 19 March 1832. He was buried on 23 March 1832 in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland aged 81 years.
Children:
1. James WILLIAMSON  born 17 December 1779, baptised 13 February 1780, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland1 Father listed as 'weaver of Nowraw??', witnesses were John Houston & John Rutherford (weavers in same place)

???could a weaver rise to a seller of spirits???
2. Christian WILLIAMSON born 24 April 1781, baptised 29 April 1781, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland.2 , listed as 'weaver in Dunfermline' and witnesses are Thomas Aitkin and Andrew Stevenson, weavers
3. John WILLIAMSON baptised 15 September 1783, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland3
4. Agnes WILLIAMSON baptised 31 May 1785, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland4 (Nancy is a nickname for Agnes)
5. Thomas WILLIAMSON born 7 November 1787, baptised 18 November 1787, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland.5 (called Margaret Philipe on bapt, no witnesses)
6. Alexander WILLIAMSON born 8 August 1789, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland6 (no witnesses or occupation on birth registry)
7. Margaret WILLIAMSON baptised 13 January 1793, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland 7

Margaret must have died between 1793 -1820 as he married Euphemia Stuart around 1821.

The son James Williamson, had these children: The name Archibald turns up as a witness in Alexander's birth.

Marriage record says:
11 November 1806
James Williamson, spirit dealer in Kilkady, son of James Williamson, senior, grocer there to Elizabeth White/Whyte of the parish of Largo, dtr of Thomas White of that parish.

Their children all born and christened Kirkaldy, Fife. 
1) Elizabeth 4 April 1808 (chr 19th) Kirkaldy, this daughter buried 19 Dec 1810 and her father is a merchant “James junior” suggesting his father is James too!
2) Margaret 5 Feb 1810 (chr 18th)1 – would have been 20
3) James 31 July (23 Aug) 1811 – would have been 20 on Drummore
4) Alexander 4 Feb 1814 (4 Mar) – would have been 17
5) Janet 3 Jan 1816 (28 Jan) – would have been 15 – her birth notice has Thomas Anderson , corkcutter and Mrs Button, midwife as witnesses
6) John 21 Sept 1818 (21 Oct) – would only have been 13
7) Thomas 23 Dec 18202 – would only have been 11 but couldn't be left behind because only one grandfather alive.

[Janet Mc]

have found out that 'my' James Williamson who had married Margaret PHILP later married Euphemia Stuart on their marriage register said that-  married as his second wife, Euphemia Stuart on 14 Jan 1821 in Kirkaldy was the son of the late James Williamson, weaver of Kier of Auchterderran. ES was dtr of Alexander Stuart, gardener of Kirkaldy.

So I'm looking for a death of a James Williamson 'of Aucherderran' and his unknown wife - weaver - prior to January 1821

Thanks for any help