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Re: Redfern/Painter ??
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 07:48 BST (UK) »
As Clara married in 1937, there is a chance she was born up to 1918. A look up may prove useful.

Yes, I beat you to that one, Cando.   ;)

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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 07:48 BST (UK) »
If you have access make sure the tree is well referenced ie the sources are cited....and even then you still need to check them yourself and I understand ancestry give 'hints' that aren't always correct but people post the 'hints' to their tree.

Cando

...and many of them have confused the families of the two couples - Thomas REDFERN and Clara HIGGINS (married 1874 in Sydney),  and Thomas REDFERN and Clara PAINTER ( married 1867 in Victoria).

Debra  :)

I think the NSW 1874 marriage cert may be another example of some elusive blanks on the cert NOT being followed up with checking the parish registers for the details of the bride and groom and their parentage.   Sadly, those hurdles were recognised by family history buffs long before the internet came along, and the family history buffs were prepared to write snail mail letters to the local clergy to gain that elusive info.    

I see NSW BDM website has made mention of these blanks, so perhaps my thread on that topic can be moved off to the COMPLETED board shortly  ;D   I quote : "The task of reconciling the Early Church Records and amending the marriage registrations was never finalised. The Registry's records from these years are not complete and it can be worthwhile for genealogists to contact the relevant church to find details missing from a marriage certificate or in the case of a birth, a baptism record where there is no corresponding civil registration." http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/historyofRegistrysRec.htm

Cheers,  JM  (fingers crossed the regulars with 1918 Pioneers Index can rescue us SOOOOOOON)

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Re: Redfern/Painter ??
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 07:49 BST (UK) »
Need to read all the posts again Jamjar :-[ ;D

This certificate should list all the children of the marriage.  Transcriptions available from
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm#TranscriptionAgent

46830/1971    
REDFERN    Mary Agnes
Father Isaac  Mother Joanna
District Wollongong  

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Re: Redfern/Painter ??
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 07:52 BST (UK) »
You do much better than me, cando. I miss things all the time, especially as the threads get longer.

Wollongong's a long way from Cowra.

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Re: Redfern/Painter ??
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 07:54 BST (UK) »
NSWBDM

Death: 24196/1945 Herbert REDFERN father Thomas Henry and mother Clara registered COWRA

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Re: Redfern/Painter ??
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 08:00 BST (UK) »
Yes I meant Mary Agnes Pound born 1883 I looked at a tree on Mundia and that is were I got the info from it has Clara Paynter Redfern born Cowra 1902 married 1937 like Jam Jar said  and it also has Clara Painter on the same tree .
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Re: Redfern/Painter ??
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 08:10 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Re the possible connection back to (Doctor) William REDFERN and the various REDFERN families in the Bathurst District
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/redfern-william-2580


The NSW State Records Office has many archive files at their Kingswood facility.   Many of the files have been indexed and most of the indexes are online.

One index is the Depasturing Licences.   I mention this because one entry on that index reads
REDFERN, W (Doctor), Wangoola, Bathurst, Western, 14/01/1837, and in the remarks column is “(deceased); Other names mentioned : WATT, R B 

Here is the index link :

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=67


Here is the link to the Bathurst family history group, you can see they have listed REDFERN   as pioneers of the district.
http://bathurstfhg.asn.au/PIONREG.shtml

Here is the link to the Cowra family history group
http://cfhg.webs.com/


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Re: Redfern/Painter ??
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 08:21 BST (UK) »
Re William Redfern WATT
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13973113 SMH 20 Oct 1894 mentions he was nephew of William REDFERN, and was among first settlers at Cowra. 

“WATT, Oct 17, 1894, at the residence of his son-in-law, Mr Mylechrane, Richmond, Newland Street, Waverley, William Redfern WATT, aged 81 years”
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13972938 SMH 18 Oct 1894

There were Mylechrane families on the Lachlan for decades and decades, as per my own oral history.

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Re: Redfern/Painter ??
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 08:22 BST (UK) »
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V1820218 8/1820 W L REDFERN parents William and Sarah

About Dr William, mentions Sarah and son William Lachlan Macquarie.

http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=422554

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