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Tweedie
« on: Thursday 19 July 12 13:58 BST (UK) »
This is going to be difficult. I am researching the Tweedie family, which from my research is a very old Scottish family. My grandfather is a Tweedie and is from Glasgow, but when I researched his family I found that his Great Grandfather is actually from Ireland. The trouble is, I don't know from where.

This is what I know about him;

David Tweedie born about 1845 in Ireland. First appearance in Glasgow is in a marriage record where he married Ann Robertson, also from Ireland, in 1876. He was a Brickfield Labourer and his parents are listed as John Tweedie, agricultural labourer and Martha Pendleton (I don't think they came to Glasgow as there are no records on ScotlandsPeople for them). He was a Presbyterian. He died on 18 Aug 1906.

Here's my guess; I think that he and Ann Robertson came from the same part of Ireland and arrived in Glasgow together to get married and start a new life. There are other Robertsons as witnesses on the Marriage Record so it looks like other members of her family went with them.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but from looking around it seems that Tweedy is the more common spelling of the surname in Ireland whereas Tweedie is the original, more Scottish spelling. All his records say Tweedie but that might not mean anything.

I have my suspicions that he is connected to the Ulster Scots but I have no proof of this.

Looking on Irish genealogy websites has turned up nothing, but then again I don't know where to look.

Is there anything I could do to help make my search easier?
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Re: Tweedie
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 July 12 14:28 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately since David was born well before the start of civil records you need a more detailed location to start a search for any Irish records - ideally the name of the town or townland your Tweedie & Robertson families came from.

A quick search of Griffith's Valuation, which was a Land taxation survey, shows that the surname is quite rare here and more concentrated in several Ulster counties - Down, Armagh, Cavan and Tyrone. A smaller number appear in counties Dublin, Wexford, Clare, Antrim and Cork.

There are a number of John Tweedy records on Griffith's that might be work checking out - see the following link. The dates of the valuation returns vary depending on the area - but should be between 1846 and about 1864.

  John Tweedy - valuation listings

Have you checked all the census returns that David and Ann were alive for ?
These can sometimes give a more detailed place of birth...

see :  Introduction to Irish Records
         My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start?   



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Re: Tweedie
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 July 12 18:44 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

The free index on ifhf shows a David Tweedie baptised in 1843 to a John and Martha Tweedie in County Down.

The mother's maiden name is not coming up as a match to Pendelton though ???

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Re: Tweedie
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 July 12 23:26 BST (UK) »

Couldn't find anything for you but I'm bound to say that the combination of Tweedie / Pendleton smacks of Counties Down and Armagh.

Also, just to be aware that I have come across the surname Pendleton being interchanged with Pentland on several occasions.

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Re: Tweedie
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 July 12 11:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the help everyone, I appreciate it.

I was PM'ed the info on David Tweedie born in 1843 in Co. Down. That definitely seems to be him, as an Ann Robertson born 1854 appears in the same area, which fits exactly with the age of my Ann Robertson.

The only snag is the Pendleton name. However, I neglected to mention that the only record of John and Martha are on David's marriage and death certificates. They are both listed as deceased on each of these records. So they aren't there to speak for themselves, so it's possible that a maiden name could be misremembered.

It's possible that she may be Martha Pentland.
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Re: Tweedie
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 July 12 11:39 BST (UK) »
Did the 'pm' give you the surname that was on ifhf against Martha ?

If not it only costs about 5 euro to buy the transcription !

Tara

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Re: Tweedie
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 July 12 11:42 BST (UK) »
If it's a non-Catholic baptism, the record may not include a maiden surname....



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Re: Tweedie
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 July 12 11:54 BST (UK) »
Pendleton deaths;

Henry L Pendleton; 12/5/1854 (18)
Beechworth Australia
Eldest son of Captain H L Pendleton
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Samuel Pendleton (Derry); 1836 Hardwicke st Dublin
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Rev.Edmund Charles; 1846
Dunmanaway Cork
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Anna Maria Pendleton; 1841
Upper Leeson st Dublin
dtr of late Philip
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Chars-Henrietta are listed in Brian Cantwells Memorials of the Dead
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Passenger lists;
Capt Pendleton; 1859
Ship; Breman
Sail date; 9/7/1859
Southampton
from; New York
Arrived; 23/7/1859
Master; Wessells H
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William Pendleton;  (34)
3rd class
Married
Miner
Ship; United Kingdom
from; New York
to; Glasgow
Arrived; 14/10/1865
Master; Munro Robert D
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Re: Tweedie
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 July 12 11:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Shane,

That's true.................I never thought of that !

Tara