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Did Burt rearly exist COMPLETED THANK YOU
« on: Wednesday 01 August 12 20:48 BST (UK) »
Hi all

Trying to find Bert Harrison he was the son of James Harold Harrison and Sarah Burrows.
All I have been able too find is a photo of him, taken in Australia.
If anybody out there has any ideas or recognises Burt please come back would be most gratefull.

whoops cannot find how too attach photo ?????


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Re: Did Burt rearly exist ????
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 August 12 22:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Did the marriage of James Harold Harrison = Sarah Burrows take place in Bakewell Registration District
September Q 1903?
see www.freebmd.org.uk

If you do not have the ages and or place of fathers of either of the above then suggest you purchase this
marriage certificate.

If you do have further information can you post details.

Assume we are looking for a Birth of a Herbert (Bert) Harrison.

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Re: Did Burt rearly exist ????
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 August 12 23:14 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Did the marriage of James Harold Harrison = Sarah Burrows take place in Bakewell Registration District
September Q 1903?
see www.freebmd.org.uk


Assume we are looking for a Birth of a Herbert (Bert) Harrison.


We could be looking for an Albert, Hubert, Bertie, Bertram, or other names!!!

Are you certain "bert" is the son of James Harold & Sarah???

There is this birth reg
George Bertie Harrison
mar qtr 1889
Worksop
7b 32

He is the son of William & Sarah Harrison and sometimes went by the name of Bert

So we could also be looking for someone with a middle name of Bert/Bertie/Herbert etc

So we really need more information before we can look further

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Re: Did Burt rearly exist ????
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 August 12 23:41 BST (UK) »
Hi

Bert was the son of:-

James Harold Harrison (1879 - 1960)

and

Sarah Burrows (1880 - 1940)

Bert's brothers and sisters =  Cyril,  Harold,  Irene,  Jack,  Evelyn,  Lillian and Haydon

have found the family on Census records, but none show Bert.  It is not known when he went to Australia.

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Re: Did Burt rearly exist ????
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 August 12 00:29 BST (UK) »
If you have found the children on the census then they must all have been born between 1903 and early 1911??? If Bert is not with them he must have been born after the 1911 census

I cannot find these children in the 1911 index (which is free to view)

I cannot find birth reg's for these children during that period

Do you have the birth reg's for the children???
Maybe the middle name was shortened to bert?

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Re: Did Burt rearly exist ????
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 August 12 11:41 BST (UK) »
According to the free 1911 website, there's a 2yo Haydon Burrows Harrison living in Derby in the same household as a 32yo James Harold Harrison, but I don't have any credits left and he's not coming up if I search on the site where I have a sub, so must have been mistranscribed.

There are a number of children born in Derby called Harrison with a mmn of Burrows between 1911 and 1920, perhaps the most likely - if "Burt" isn't on the 1911 census - is James H Harrison, b. Q3 of 1915, where the "H" could be Herbert/Hubert perhaps. 

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Re: Did Burt rearly exist ????
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 August 12 13:56 BST (UK) »
Can't find "Bert" at the moment, you may already have this but on familysearch.org there is a parish register extract Cromford St Mark's for Lilian May Harrison, born 19 Feb 1904 bap 8 May 1904 parents James Harold and Sarah. Cromford would come under Bakewell registration district.

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North,Noble,Harrison,Seller - North Riding Yorks parishes
Brown,Brooks,Watson - Belper/Duffield Derbys
Hole - Ashover Derbys
Webb, Flavell, Mason - Staffs (mainly Sedgley)
Bevan,Beamond - Chirbury Shropshire
Longridge - Northumberland/Durham
Freeman - Hampshire, Oxfordshire,Sussex
Smith - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
Whitehead - Yorkshire
Morris - St Pancras Yorkshire etc

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Re: Did Burt rearly exist ????
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 August 12 15:01 BST (UK) »
Hi

Bert was the son of:-

James Harold Harrison (1879 - 1960)

and

Sarah Burrows (1880 - 1940)

Bert's brothers and sisters =  Cyril,  Harold,  Irene,  Jack,  Evelyn,  Lillian and Haydon

have found the family on Census records, but none show Bert.  It is not known when he went to Australia.

Thank you
l.plates

Are you certain you have found these children on census?? If so could you give reference?

It seems likely that James Harold Harrison and Sarah only had 3 children between 1903 -1911 -so others may have been born after census release??
Or were some born pre marriage??

These are birth reg's of their children
Lillian May Harrison (as posted by Shirl) 1904

then the family moved to Derby
and had the following children
George Cyril Harrison Sept qtr 1906 Derby 7b 589 (would this be Cyril - and he used his middle name?)

Hayden Burrows Harrison Sept qtr 1908 Derby 7b 599

These children were born after 1911 all have mother's maiden name as Burrows
All births registered in Derby district


Harold L Harrison Jun qtr 1913 Derby 7b 1143

James H  Harrison Sept qtr 1915 Derby 7b 1035 (could his middle name have been Herbert or Hubert -and shortened to bert?)

John W Harrison Mar qtr 1918 Derby 7b 888 (could this be Jack? Jack is a very common nickname for John)

Godfrey R Harrison Jun qtr 1920 Derby 7b 1218 (or could this be Bert? and his middle name is Robert-shortened to Bert?) Maybe this is an unlikely candidate for "Bert" -as hedied age 12 -Death reg Godfrey R Harrison age 12 Mar qtr 1933 Derby 7b 910

Edith E Harrison Dec qtr 1922 Derby 7b 922 (could Edith's middle name be Evelyn - which she was known as??)

Irene Harrison Jun qtr 1925 7b 1010

What do you think??

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Re: Did Burt rearly exist ????
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 August 12 15:14 BST (UK) »
If James H Harrison is Bert (middle name Hubert/Herbert?) then does anyone remember him visiting from Australia - or does this Derby address ring any bells??

UK Incoming Passenger Lists 1878-1960

Ship Moreton Bay
Aberdeen & Commonwealth Shipping Line
James Harrison age39 Occ Metal Turner
counrty of permanent residence :Australia
Embarked Melbourne Australia
Arrived Southampton England 2 November 1954
intended address in UK 57 Holcombe St Derby

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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