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Re: John William Barnes
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 15:37 BST (UK) »
How would I find ancestors of Lily Barnes? Does anyone have access to the 1901 or 1911 Census for 20 Holland Road, Kensington?

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 19:50 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast is the only website which allows an address search but its T & C's prohibit publication of that information

You would have to buy credits to search
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 19:51 BST (UK) »
Are there any other ways to find out the parents of Lily Barnes? I cannot find a likely birth certificate on freebmd.

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 20:07 BST (UK) »
To find a birth you would have to have an approx birthyear as well as the county in which she was born.  Even then - if there were more than one possible entry you would need more info to narrow it down

If we assume she was 19 when she had her son - ber birthyear would be approx 1906/07

Freebmd has 17 birth entries for a Lily Barnes between 1906-1907

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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 20:10 BST (UK) »
That is where I got stuck, there is so many Lily Barnes. Thank you for your help.

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Re: John William Barnes
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 22:39 BST (UK) »
Albert C Alder arriving from Quebec 1952 & 1955
Lily E Barnes aged 42 (born 1909) arrived from Quebec 1951

Both travel on the Cunard line ships.

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 23:45 BST (UK) »
Good find Jennifer - is it too much of a coincidence for there not to be a connection??

This is the only Lily E Barnes birth between 1908-1909

Births June qtr 1909  Lily Eveline Barnes    Chorlton  8c 820

In 1952 Albert aged 62 was travelling with his wife  Alice V aged 61 to 38 Channor/Chinnor Crescent Greenford Middlesex.  His occupation was Secretary/Treasurer

In 1955 Albert is shown as  b 22.8.1889 and Alice 10.3.1891 and address shown as 2 Westfield Way Ruislip Middlesex

This is the same Albert C Alder I posted birth details for in my earlier reply

Marriage on freebmd in 1915 Greenwich shows Alice as Alice V Roberts

3.4.1915 St Pauls Greenwich

Albert Charles Alder 25 commercial Clerk father William Giles Alder cab driver - deceased

Alice Violet Roberts 24 father William Charles Roberts cellar man

Witnesses William Giles Alder & Ruby Ethel Wheeler
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 09 August 12 11:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you, it is interesting that there may be a connection to Quebec. I have ordered Births June qtr 1909  Lily Eveline Barnes    Chorlton  8c 820

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 August 12 11:54 BST (UK) »
Is it likely that this is the same Lily E Barnes? John William Barnes was born Kensington so it seems likely to me?

1921
Barnes    Lily E    Robbins    Kensington    1a   433
Robbins    Sidney R    Barnes    Kensington    1a   433