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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 August 12 12:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much, Aghadowey. I did find Victoria's will, also one for a Hugh Boyd, but did not find any for my Jenny Boyd or any Boyd between 1780 and 1820.
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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 August 12 12:41 BST (UK) »
... or any Boyd between 1780 and 1820.

There are no pre-1858 Wills in the database- this is explained on the website: The database covers the period 1858-1919 and 1922-1943.  Part of 1921 has been added, with remaining entries for 1920-1921 to follow in the near future. What you are looking at for pre-1900 Wills are the entries in the Will Books as the actual Wills/Administration paperwork does not survive.

PRONI have a whole section for their information leaflets. This one explains about Wills & Probate-
http://www.proni.gov.uk/no.7_-_wills_and_probate__41kb_.pdf
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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 14 August 12 12:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks again, aghadowey. That escaped my notice.
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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 15 August 12 05:46 BST (UK) »

Griffiths Valuation for this area is virtually contemporary with the period when Matthew Keown gave up the license for the Belfast Hotel.

If you search for all residents in Whiteabbey village (search for 'white abbey', ie. with a space between the words) you will see Matthew Keown with several properties together (references 77 / 78 / 79)  which the valuation would indicate are more substantial than surrounding properties - part or all of these are likely to be the Belfast Hotel. 

There are two Boyds listed, a John (reference 60) living in a seemingly ordinary house and an Andrew Boyd in a more substantial property which is the very next entry (reference 80) to the Matthew Keown listing. This initially seemed like too much of a coincidence, however when I glanced at the (quite long) will for Andrew Boyd of Whiteabbey (he only died a few years later) I could see nothing to tie it in to the whole Martha Carson  / Victoria Boyd story - go look at it yourself on the PRONI website.

So the proximity of Andrew Boyd might be co-incidental after all.  Boyd is a common enough surname in the wider Carnmoney parish area...
 


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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 August 12 11:48 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Martha Carson BOYD married William YOUNG on 30 Jan 1865 at Carnmoney Church of Ireland. Martha's fathers name is John

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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 15 August 12 15:41 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much, Gaffy and Margaret. I did wonder if Martha's father was John as he had the Belfast Hotel in 1852 according to Lennon Wylie. I was trying to track the Hotel even further back but couldn't find it. I am also wondering if Matthew Keown is related to the family somehow.
I am going to go read Andrew's will now. and also look at the Griffiths Valuation. Thanks for the heads up.
Peggy
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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 15 August 12 16:35 BST (UK) »
I need some help in finding the Griffiths Valuation for Whiteabbey in 1861. Can't seem to get into proper area.
thanks
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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
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Re: Martha Carson Boyd, Whitesabbey
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 15 August 12 18:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Gaffy,
I found the page which also has John Boyd on it. I see Andrew Boyd and others as occupiers with Hugh McCalmont as Lessor - does that mean landlord? Hugh is mentioned in Andrew's will. Then I see James Smyth and others as occupiers with Andrew Boyd as lessor.
Thanks for your help
Peggy
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