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Henlow Parish - Cooper
« on: Sunday 19 August 12 13:18 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the parents of my ancestor JOSEPH COOPER who was I believe born in Henlow around 1689. He married ANN EVERATT in Bedford on 26 August 1724. I would like to know details of his parents and whether or not he had any siblings.
Many thanks
David Parker
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Re: Henlow Parish - Cooper
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 August 12 14:00 BST (UK) »
His parents were John Cooper and Sarah. They married c 1686 but I've never managed to find the marriage. John & Sarah were non conformists as shown by a note in Henlow parish register which contains the following section: "A register of the children of Dissenters born in this Parish of Henlow and not baptised beginning 2nd June 1696"
The five children of John and Sarah commencing with Thomas were all included in this record, but of course Joseph was born earlier than this so there's no record of a baptism.

The will of John Cooper dated 7 Sept 1720 provides the link:
"In the name of God Amen I John Cooper of Henlow in the county of Bedford, yeoman, being weak in body but in perfect mind memory and understanding ….
….
I give and bequeath unto my son William Cooper the sum of Fifteen pounds to be paid him within two years after my decease.
I give and bequeath unto my son Thomas Cooper the sum of Thirty pounds to be paid him within three years after my decease.
I give and bequeath unto my son Richard Cooper the sum of Ten pounds so soon as he shall have an opportunity to go to prentice and also the further sum of twenty pounds within seven years after my decease.
I give and bequeath unto my daughter Mary Cooper the sum of Twenty pounds to be paid her when she shall attain unto the age of one and twenty years or marriage which shall first happen
I give and bequeath unto Sarah my wife the sum of Three pounds a year during the time of her natural life besides her jointure
I further give unto Sarah my wife the sum of Twenty pounds to dispose of as she thinks fit and half my household goods
All this rest and residue of my estate goods and chattels whatsoever unbequeathed I give unto my son Joseph Cooper paying all my debts and legacies whom I make my sole executor of this my present last will and testament
The mark of John Cooper
Witnesses
Ann Childe         Sarah Fowler
John Hurst


I think John Cooper may have married twice, each time to a Sarah. This is what I have on this family:

1.  John Cooper was born in 1649 at Henlow, Beds.  He was christened
on 9 Sep 1649 at Henlow, Beds.  He married Sarah (-?-) circa 1676.  He
married Sarah (-?-) circa 1686.  He died in Sep 1720 at Henlow, Beds.  He
was buried on 13 Sep 1720 at Henlow, Beds; "Yeoman."  His estate was
probated on 6 Nov 1720.
     He witnessed the Death of Sarah (-?-) in Jun 1681.  John Cooper and
Thomas Cooper were Churchwardens in 1682.  In 1683 he was no longer signing as Churchwarden.

When his widow, Sarah, was buried John was described as
"Husbandman."

     Children of John Cooper and Sarah (-?-) were:
         2    i. John Cooper was born in 1678 at Henlow, Beds.  He was
                 christened on 13 Feb 1678 at Henlow, Beds.4  He died in
                 Feb 1678 at Henlow, Beds.  He was buried on 15 Feb 1678 at
                 Henlow, Beds.
     Children of John Cooper and Sarah (-?-) all born at Henlow, Beds, were
as follows:
         3    i. Thomas Cooper was born in 1687 at Henlow, Beds.  He was
                 christened on 18 Feb 1687.  He died in May 1690 at
                 Henlow, Beds.  He was buried on 17 May 1690 at Henlow,
                 Beds.
        4   ii. Joseph Cooper, b. 1689; m. Ann Everatt.
         5  iii. Sarah Cooper was born in 1692.
                      Her father's will makes no mention of her, so she had
                 probably either died before 1720, although there is no
                 burial in Henlow, or she was comfortably married.
         6   iv. William Cooper was born in 1695.
         7    v. Thomas Cooper was born on 26 Feb 1697.
         8   vi. Anne Cooper was born on 16 May 1699.  She died in May
                 1715.  She was buried on 8 May 1715 at Henlow, Beds; "Not
                 baptised."
         9  vii. Agnes Cooper was born on 14 Jul 1701.  She died in Jul
                 1719.  She was buried on 6 Jul 1719 at Henlow, Beds.
        10 viii. Richard Cooper, born 21 Oct 1703; m. Elizabeth (-?-).
        11   ix. Mary Cooper was born on 27 Mar 1707.

Feel free to disagree with anything! I can take the Coopers back to c1450 in Arlesey, but female lines go back as far as you want.

I show Joseph and Ann as baptising two children in Henlow,  Joseph in 1725 and John in 1727, but for some reason which totally escapes me I haven't traced them down any further. I'd be interested to see what you have on this family

David (Cooper) b Henlow
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Henlow Parish - Cooper
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 August 12 14:16 BST (UK) »
Wow! Thank you for that - it might take a while to digest. As Joseph is a direct ancestor I am interested in anything further back you might have.

David Parker
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Re: Henlow Parish - Cooper
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 August 12 14:35 BST (UK) »
To send you a report would be too big. I have a tree at http://www.cooperda.tribalpages.com/

I'll send you a personal message with the password

Do you know who the children of Joseph b1689 married?

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Henlow Parish - Cooper
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 August 12 15:02 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much. Joseph Cooper is my 8xGreat Grandfather. His two children were as you say Joseph (26 Dec 1725 Henlow) and John (9 Dec 1727 Henlow). My family descends from John and I have fairly good records if you are interested. John married Ann Thorogood (23 Apr 1725 Henlow)on 1 Oct 1748 at Southill. They had 3 children Mary (b. 11 Mar 1746 Campton; christened 17 Sep 1758 Campton), John (b. 21 Sep 1749 Campton; christened 17 Sep 1758 Campton) and my ancestor Anne (b. 21 Jun 1753 Campton; christened 17 Sep 1758 Campton).

David
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Re: Henlow Parish - Cooper
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 August 12 15:27 BST (UK) »
I remember looking at this one now, but didn't ink it in as there was no evidence that the Southill marriage was Joseph John from Henlow. I'll have another look, particularly as Ann was also from Henlow, which I think had escaped me before

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Henlow Parish - Cooper
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 March 16 10:22 GMT (UK) »
The parents of the three children that you mention all baptised in 1758 weren't necessarily John and Ann as you state, but possibly Joseph and Mary, who may have been Joseph Cooper and Mary Millard who married in Southill on 3 Feb 1745/6. Joseph and John may have been brothers, although on marriage Joseph was described as a bricklayer, whereas the Joseph father of the three children baptised in 1758 in Campton was a husbandman.

It looks to me as though the IGI has taken the three baptisms from F.Wall's transcript, which I don't know. The transcript of Campton parish register done c 1962 but not published until 1984 by Bedfordshire County Record Office as it was then, clearly shows the parents as Jos and Mary Cooper of Shefford, husbandman. If Joseph and Mary were the parents rather than John and Ann, it would explain the problem of Mary being born in March 1746 and John and Ann not marrying until Oct 1748. To resolve the ambiguity reference to the microfilm of the parish register is needed. I'll go through what's on the IGI and compare the results with the Beds CRO transcript. A major rethink might then be needed!

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Henlow Parish - Cooper
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 09:45 BST (UK) »
It's cat among pigeons time, and the major rethink that I feared might be needed is now required.

The IGI is wrong when it shows that the parents of Mary, John and Ann were John and Ann Cooper. My friend JohnP-Beds who is also active on this board has kindly been into Bedford Archives and checked the microfilm of Campton parish register, where the parents of the three children are shown as Joseph and Mary Cooper, not John and Ann. The transcript of Campton parish register also shows them as Joseph and Mary, and this transcript compared the parish register with the Bishop's Transcript, so there's no discrepancy between the two, otherwise the transcript would have added a note.

It's possible that the ancestral line could remain unchanged if Joseph and John were brothers, but I need to do more work on this as JohnP found another possible marriage between Joseph Cooper of Hawnes and Mary Willes of Shefford at Campton on 9 Jun 1740. I have my doubts about this marriage being the right one as there's a large gap between 1740 and the birth of what appears to be the first child in 1746, but I need to do more research.

Watch this space!

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: Henlow Parish - Cooper
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 May 16 09:54 BST (UK) »
Oh dear. I am most grateful for your input into this as I can't get up to Bedford easily to check for myself. My hope is that John and Joseph were brothers! Many thanks also to your friend.

David
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