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"Papers Past" Updates Part III
« on: Tuesday 21 August 12 22:25 BST (UK) »
Yes thats right folks we are now starting Part III
Our much loved updates and discussions re Paperspast hit the max limit
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,609737.0.html

so now we need to start a new thread
Yesterday bought many of us joy and will continue to bring hours of new research and finds
For those of you just joining in..yesterday saw the release of

Latest additions to Papers Past (August 2012): http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

•Dominion (1907-1920)
•Free Lance (1910-1920)
•Press (1915-1920)
•Te Puke Times (1913-1920)
•Thames Advertiser (1874-1899)


We all give sincere thanks to the hardworking team at Paperspast
Bye
Althea

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Re: "Papers Past" Updates Part III
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 22:49 BST (UK) »
I am still to check out the new additions to PP.

Well done Althea on starting the new thread and keeping an eye on the old one

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Re: "Papers Past" Updates Part III
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 22:56 BST (UK) »
The Thames Advertiser is great Althea ....... found a bit more 8)


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Re: "Papers Past" Updates Part III
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 August 12 03:09 BST (UK) »
A few have said that the Thames Advertiser has the same as the Thames Star
1000% nooooooooo
I have set up a double search just with the two papers and the different reporting is incredible
Things about my GGGrandfather for instance and Forest ranger meeting, mine accidents etc

But today I am full on finding new school pupils, the reporting for the schools is totally new
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Althea

PS. Hope the other regional papers are equally impressed :)


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Re: "Papers Past" Updates Part III
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 August 12 06:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks PP
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Re: "Papers Past" Updates Part III
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 August 12 22:39 BST (UK) »
A few have said that the Thames Advertiser has the same as the Thames Star
1000% nooooooooo
I have set up a double search just with the two papers and the different reporting is incredible
Things about my GGGrandfather for instance and Forest ranger meeting, mine accidents etc

But today I am full on finding new school pupils, the reporting for the schools is totally new
Bye
Althea

PS. Hope the other regional papers are equally impressed :)

Hi Althea - this is interesting. It indicates that two competing papers in one area might actually have a little less overlap than we assumed (clearly true from a genealogical perspective), which has been a point of consideration in our selection meetings. This degree of overlap might be quite variable, a lot might hinge on how two or more entities compete/relate. Still, this is very interesting to know - thanks!

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Re: "Papers Past" Updates Part III
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 23 August 12 08:19 BST (UK) »
Dear PPast
The reporting is definetly totally different
I am researching schools, Advertiser has totally new indepth reporting,

When it comes to early family like CORNES
the first 50 hits - only 2 are for Thames Star
Now this includes a fatal accident
FATAL ACCIDENT AT THE CENTRAL ITALY MINE.
Thames Advertiser, Volume VII, Issue 1804, 4 May 1874, Page 3


Looking at Thames Star
Thames Star, Volume III, Issue 1667, 4 May 1874, Page 2
They have recorded Clements name as C D CORNS
Advertiser had CORNES

I can already see lots of early businesses that are advertising in Advertiser that i have not seen before
including Edmund Cornes who is starting a private school
Thames Advertiser, Volume VII, Issue 1900, 23 November 1874, Page 2


We had already known this in terms of BMD notices..families place notices in one or the other..but not both

So yes I think well and truly there are real benefits to having two newspapers in the one location - they were probably in competition with one another and what they advertise and write seems to support this.
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Althea
PS. Another reason for this is the fact that for Thames Star there were alot of issues missing/unavailable - no issues for 1876. Now The Thames Advertiser has all this year, this is going to be major for researchers. Part of a key decade of depression and improvements, not previously available

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Re: "Papers Past" Updates Part III
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 August 12 04:14 BST (UK) »
Great to see The Dom now included - up to 1920

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Re: "Papers Past" Updates Part III
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 September 12 05:04 BST (UK) »
Just want to issue a word of warning to folk about the importance os sometimes looking at the page view

This column
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=THA18741225.2.8&e=25-12-1874-25-12-1874--10-THA-1----2--
looks fine and you would think that the info related to the Church of England Grammar School
I thought it was strange because the teacher mentioned below the blackout has his own school

when you look at the full page view
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=THA18741225.1.3&e=25-12-1874-25-12-1874--10-THA-1----2--
you can see that the blackout/missing bit is quite large..so I would think that there is another heading for a new school (Karaka School) that is missing then follows Mr Jones report on his school

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Althea