unusual Pub name

[Trees]

We have so many pubs connected to our tree I thought I knew the reasoning behind all the names and signs until yesterday when I found The three crowns and sugar loaf.
Yes I know there is a pub still open with the name in Kidderminster but it looks fairly modern and I think has taken the name from the one on my tree which is there in 1835 when my "ancestor" is listed in Pigots' directory.
I have found a reference to a pub in London with three sugar loaves and a crown in that case it was in the district of sugar refineries
My questions are
Why Three crowns? I can only think of 1936 when we had 3 monarchs in one year and that is well after the pub was named.
 Secondly was there any sugar refining in Kidderminster or more precisely Franch district ?
 Why would the Crowns and sugar loaf be mentioned together?
Was there a local coat of arms with three crowns connected perhaps to Franch Hall?
Does anyone know the history of the pub? Particularly how old was the original one/

A lot to ask I know but these pub names often tell us a lot about local history and I am curious.
I will be grateful for any help answering the above questions
Cheers
Trees

[The Mc]

If you download the PDF file from the website it tells you the history of the pub and how it got it's name....?

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=three%20crowns%20and%20sugarloaf&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CGoQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kidcivicsoc.org.uk%2FDownloads%2Fthreecrownsandsugarloaf_hkp098.pdf&ei=hr00UMLPNMP80QXymYHgBQ&usg=AFQjCNEV5u3nNIZdlO7PfPzco0SswLTu8A

[Trees]

Brilliant many thanks now how did I fail to find that? So it was in the end a religious joke what a great story.
 :)Trees

[philheeks]

Hi Trees

Im on holiday in WOR so cant respond to this request straight away - however I have a book at home listing all Kidderminster pubs, when they opened & closed etc which I will gladly look at for you regarding the 3 Crowns &  Sugarloaf if its any help to you

All the very best

Phil
Weston=super-Mare

ps can you give me a reminder in about 5 weeks time please as I aint got the best of memories 

[Trees]

Thanks Phil the history link The Mc posted is great but doesn't mention Ann Giles who was there 1835 1842 at least I wonder if her late husband had been the landlord first I'd be grateful if you have a quick look to see if there is any mention of them when you get back. Have you been to the Hive yet? is it easy to use?
H.

[philheeks]

Hi Trees

My book wont give you the landlords names onl when the pub opened, where exactly it is/was & when it closed etc.  I have seen a 3 volume set of large books (in a charity shop in Kidderminster)on pubs but they are to much for me to carry

All the very best

Phil 

[Trees]

Thanks Phil I wonder if its available on the inter library loan system can you remember the title? How long ago did you see the books for sale I wonder if its worth asking the shop if its still available
I think the eaiest thing will be a trip to Oxford Ro to look for the licences 

[philheeks]

Hi Trees

I saw these books last Thursday & will have a look in the shop today as they may still be there - trouble is they are 3 large volumes & the postage would be very expensive

All the very best

Phil

[philheeks]

Hi Trees

Since my last posting to you Ive had my dinner then looked in 3 charity (as the books were in one of them) Im sorry to say that there is now no sign of them & I bet someone researching pubs snapped them up mores the pity

All the very best

Phil