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Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« on: Monday 27 August 12 14:02 BST (UK) »
I am trying to piece together the life of Edward Thurlow (1809 – 1892).  He was a marine – Greenwich Pensioner by 1871.  Children 1 and 2 were born Chatham, Kent (1834 & 37), as were 5, 6 and 7 (1847, 50 & 52); but 3, Lavinia Jane and 4, Louisa Mary were born Narberth in 1843 and 45.  He was away from home in 1841, and again in 1881 (although presumably retired). 

Could anyone shine any light on where he may have been in the early 1840s, please.

many thanks

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Re: Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 August 12 16:11 BST (UK) »
Do you have correct y.o.b. for children??

1851 in Chatham Kent shows Edward and Selina with children Edward 17 b Chatham Kent, Lavinia 15 Chatham Kent, Louisa 8 Pembroke, Selina 6 pembroke, Caroline 4 Chatham kent, William 1 Chatham
you have lavinia Jane b 1843 narberth???

1841
Eaton St Andrew Norwich Norfolk
Selina Thurlow 30 schoolmistress no
Edward 6 no
Lavinia 4 no
HO107 787 2 10 15

so if I am following the correct family  it seems very likely Edward was away at sea in 1841 and was maybe away for some years - which may explain the approx 7 year gap between lavinia and Louisa ?????

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Re: Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 August 12 20:28 BST (UK) »
Suz

Thank you for your interest, and for spotting my error.  Louisa Mary was born 1843 and Selina Ann, 1845 – both Pembrokeshire, and from FamilySearch baptised Narberth Loiusa 13 Feb 1844, and Selina 2 Mar 1845.

I agree Edward was probably at sea in 1841 when the family were in Norwich.  I was rather hoping to find out details of this time – boat, where, for what reason etc.  Why did he spend some time in Pembrokeshire, when Chatham seemed to be his main base?

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Re: Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 August 12 17:10 BST (UK) »
the two girls weren't born in Narberth as their births were registered at Pembroke - their place of birth on the 1851 census entry

Louisa Mary Thurlow june qtr 1843 Pembroke vol 26 pg 665

Selina Ann Thurlow march qtr 1845 Pembroke vol 26 pg 709

Selina was baptised in Pembroke Dock

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FM9C-QXS

Louisa was baptised at Narberth
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1YW-VT5

The births registered Pembroke could be explained by Edward being at the naval dockyard in Pembroke Dock

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southwest/sites/pembrokedock/pages/phil_carradice.shtml
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 August 12 18:29 BST (UK) »
Osprey

Thank you.  I have now found Edwards papers at TNA - his attestation date was 1831, age 20 and his discharge 1851, giving him 21 years service and entitling him to a pension - which matches the ref to Greeenwich Pensioner in 1861 census.  I have also found a thesis from Greenwich about life in the Navy 1830 to 1850, which at 300+ pages will give me a little reading and hopefully some idea of their lives at this time. 

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Re: Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 September 12 19:29 BST (UK) »
FamilySearch baptised Narberth Loiusa 13 Feb 1844, and Selina 2 Mar 1845.
I'm afraid to report this is yet another instance of mis-information on the Familysearch website. There is no reference to the baptism of a Selina Thurlow at Narberth.
I did find the following in the Narberth Baptism Register;
13 Feb 1844 Louisa Mary the daughter of Edward & Selina Thurlow of Narberth a Private in the Royal Marines was baptised by Wm Lloyd the Rector.

Not wishing to confuse, but hoping this might add to your research, I gave the problem some thought(not much time lost there then) and looked elsewhere and came up with the following at the Garrison chapel ;
15 Apr 1877 William Henry the son of Henry & Sarah Jane Thurlow of the Pater Battery a Bombadier in the Coast Brigade 14th Divison Royal Aritllery baptised by Geo Wylde the Chaplin to H.M. Forces.

Turing to Lavinia Jane, I’m afraid once again there is no reference to her baptism either in the area of Narberth or Pembroke Dock.
The only possible “Lavinia Jane” that can be found is from my transcription of the parish registers of Monkton St Nicholas and that is on 6th Aug 1848 there is reference to the baptism of a Jane Lavinia, however the parents, abode and occupations are all listed as ‘Unknown’, which does not offer much solution, but best thought you are made aware.

If you think I can be of any further assistance (not much so far) let me know.
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Re: Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 September 12 22:15 BST (UK) »
Orielbenfro
Many thanks for your time and interest. The reference to Louisa Mary's baptism info does match FamilySearch.  It is my error on Selina Ann - they give her baptim as at St Mary Wesleyan Methodist, Pembroke Dock on 2 Mar 1845 - I had a senior moment and didn't check all my notes.
It is interesting that you have found another Thurlow in the area - I will make a note, it may come in useful, but not names I have come across yet.
Lavinia Jane was another senior moment, the family were still in Chatham when she was born (1837), to where they returned before their 5th child, Caroline Matilda was born in 1847. 
Again thank you for your help, if nothing else it has clarified my thoughts, which can only be a positive move.
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Re: Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 September 12 09:54 BST (UK) »
From my transcription of the Non-conformist baptism register of the Wesleyan Chapel of Pembroke Dock between the years 1839 and 1845 I note the following ;

02 Mar 1845 Selina to Edward & Selina Hurlow of Pembroke Dock baptised at aged 3 weeks.
(Note family surname spelling)

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e-book ~ Ex Servicemen buried Llanion Cemetery
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Re: Edward Thurlow in Narberth 1840s
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 September 12 11:27 BST (UK) »
Orielbenfro
That will be it.  Many more thanks.  That is yet another incorrect spelling!
Kath
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