JOHNS FAMILY

[Rose_Frankcombe]

Hi all,
Does anyone have any information on the JOHNS family, in particular THOMAS JOHNS, a shepherd who lived in the high country of Tasmania, Australia, near the Great Lake, with his wife HENRIETTA BENNETT?

[saddles]

Perhaps the following will help.


BENNETT, Henrietta   Age:   19   Marriage
   Spouse:   JONES, Thomas   Age:   30
   Marriage Date:   17 Oct 1883   
    Reg Year:   1883   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   949
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JOHNS, Alfred Thomas  Birth
   Sex:   Male   
Father:   Thomas
Mother:   Bennett Henrietta Louisa
    Event Date:   04 Jul 1884
   Reg Year:   1884   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   845
   
JOHNS, Alice Maud     Birth
   Sex:   Female   
Father:   Thomas
Mother:   Bennett Henrietta Louisa
    Event Date:   16 Oct 1886
   Reg Year:   1886   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   2434   

JOHNS, Amy May     Birth
   Sex:   Female   
Father:   Thomas
Mother:   Bennett Henrietta
    Event Date:   30 Nov 1888
   Reg Year:   1889   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   819   

JOHNS, William Robert  Birth
   Sex:   Male   
Father:   Thomas
Mother:   Bennett Henrietta
    Event Date:   13 Nov 1890
   Reg Year:   1890   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   860

JOHNS, Colin Leo     Birth
Sex:   Male   
Father:   Thomas
Mother:   Bennett Henrietta
    Event Date:   14 Jan 1895
   Reg Year:   1895   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   1775   

JOHNS, Arthur    Birth
   Sex:   Male   
Father:   Thomas
Mother:   Bennett Henrietta
    Event Date:   01 Feb 1899
   Reg Year:   1899   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   1697   

[Rose_Frankcombe]

Thank you, 'Saddles', for your prompt response to my query.

The information you supply is valuable, although I am beginning to realise the name 'Johns' can often be mistaken for 'Jones', as per the note re Thomas in the marriage information.

Now comes a harder question. I'm breezing along fairly well with Henrietta's forebears, but at this point I'm in a quandary with Thomas's history - ie who were his parents. Any ideas?

I've sighted Thomas's grave but unfortunately there's very little inscription there, save for his name and date of death.

Cheers... Rose

[saddles]

Further...

1903 Tasmaian Post Office
Johns Thos, charcoal burner, Mangana

[saddles]

The best fit for a birth is as follows:

JOHNS, Thomas     Birth
   Sex:   Male   Father:   William
          Mother:   Langbridge Elizabeth
    Event Date:   07 Sep 1851
   Reg Year:   1851   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   219


or


JOHNS, Thomas Edward     Birth
   Sex:   Male   Father:   Samuel James
          Mother:   Wiggins Ellen
    Event Date:   03 Apr 1854
   Reg Year:   1854   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   842   

[Rose_Frankcombe]

It's a tricky one, isn't it, 'Saddles'. I haven't come across the William Johns and Elizabeth Langbridge connection until you provided it, but I feel 1851 discounts parentage, as Thomas was 68 when he died in 1922, thus giving him a birth year of 1854, allowing that the headstone details are correct.

I've been looking at the Samuel Johns aspect of the family, wondering if there is a connection, and find there are 2 Samuels, who both married in 1850 - one to Margaret McDaid, in June 1850 - and the other to Helen Wiggins, in September 1850.

Makes it difficult to decide which one at this stage... Cheers... Rose

[sparrett]

Hi all,
THOMAS JOHNS, a shepherd who lived in the high country of Tasmania, Australia, near the Great Lake, with his wife HENRIETTA BENNETT?

The ELECTORAL ROLLS show seperate addresses or HENRIETTA and THOMAS. 

I am happy to type the Electoral findings for the people by the name JOHNS in the district if you do not have them.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/9933973?searchTerm="thomas johns" +"great lake"&searchLimits=

This advertisement shows there was clearly an estrangement between HENRIETTA and THOMAS. He says she deserted her home in 1907.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/61116416?searchTerm="thomas johns" +"great lake"&searchLimits=

Detailed obituary for eldest son Alfred Thomas gives good family picture 1953

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/50764879?searchTerm="thomas johns" +"great lake"&searchLimits=
Thomas in the news sues for damages 1914


Sue

 

[Noells]

I have just checked the Public Member trees on ancestry and there are several there for this family.
Some have Thomas Edward Johns, some have Thomas Johns. Some show his birth as 3rd April 1854 some 7th September 1851.
Most have parents Samuel James Johns and Ellen Wiggins
Others have parents William Johns and Elizabeth Louisa Hopsall( some show her to have been married several times so other surnames)
All have the wife of Thomas Johns/Thomas Edward Johns as Henrietta Louisa Bennett.

Sorry if this has just caused more confusion, but if you check that website you might be able to contact the submitters and resolve things that way.

Noells

[cando]

BENNETT, Henrietta   Age:   19   Marriage
   Spouse:   JONES, Thomas   Age:   30
   Marriage Date:   17 Oct 1883  
   Reg Year:   1883   Reg State:   Tasmania
   Ref Number:   949

My resource has the surname of Thomas mistranscribed on the marriage registration also however the registration place is Oatlands.  

Alfred Thomas,  Amy May and William Robert's births were registered at Bothwell.  Alice Maud, Colin Leo and Arthur's births were registered at Oatlands.

Marriages
JOHNS Alice Maud
CASEY Edward
14 Oct 1903
At St Peters Church, Oatlands  Reg#1067

JOHNS Amy May
LOCKWOOD George Bertram
21 Aug 1905
At St Peters Church, Oatlands Reg#1098

JOHNS William Robert
McCARTHY Eileen Lilian
17 Apr 1922
At Saundridge Church of England Church  Reg#1367

Australian Electoral Roll
1914  Franklin/Bothwell
JOHNS Henrietta Jean Banks, Bothwell  Home duties
JOHNS Thomas  Great Lake   Shepherd
JOHNS William  Bothwell  Labourer

1919  Franklin/Bothwell
JOHNS Elizabeth  Great Lake  Home duties
JOHNS George David  Great Lake  Shepherd
JOHNS Henrietta Jean Banks, Bothwell  Home duties
JOHNS Thomas  Great Lake   Shepherd

1928 Wilmot/Bothwell
JOHNS Arthur Leslie  Shannon Scheme  Labourer
JOHNS Colin  Shannon  Labourer
JOHNS Ernest Edward  Shannon  Shepherd
JOHNSGeorge David Allenvale Great Lake  Shepherd
JOHNS Henrietta  Shannon  Home duties

1936, 1937 Wilmot/Bothwell
JOHNS Colin  Cider Park Great Lake  Laborer
JOHNS Elizabeth  Allenvale  Great Lake  Home duties
JOHNS Ernest Edward  Kanne Leena, Waddamana  Shepherd
JOHNS George David  Allenvale  Great Lake  Shepherd
JOHNS Henrietta Louisa Kanna Leena, Waddamana  Home duties

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waddamana,_Tasmania

This Thomas b. c1854.  Henrietta's husband born c1853 according to the marriage registration and he is not listed on the 1928 electoral roll with Henrietta.

Headstone of Thomas JOHNS
Died in 1922 aged 68years
Campbell Town, St Lukes Anglican Cemetery

JOHNS Thomas
Parents not recorded
11 Aug 1922
At District Hospital Campbell Town   1922  Reg#92

Cheers
Cando

Sorry called away and I now see that there are numerous replies to your request...you may as well have this anyway.