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Offline DORAN54

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Re: Sure hope you can help...I AM STUCK
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 September 12 12:46 BST (UK) »
doubtful  ?? robert kennedy died oct 1837 york vol 23 page 376

but why would he be in york

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 September 12 12:52 BST (UK) »
How do you know the 1837 death in York is the correct Robert???

Robert and Harriet married in Hull Yks -according to original post

so there is possibly some kind of  Yorks connection???

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 September 12 13:03 BST (UK) »
well i don't know its the correct robert thats why i put doubtful!!

found it on free B M D vol 23 page 376

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 01 September 12 13:11 BST (UK) »
there is also a death reg in 1838 in  Hull
Just guesswork and may confuse the issue without any certainty

There is a baptism
Maria Kennedy
7 April 1816
Cathedral St peter Sheffield Yks
parents Robert & Harriet Kennedy

could she be sister of William Dixon??

Strange no more children?

Do you have Robert's occupation??
Or any other details fro William Dixon  Kennedy's marriage cert??

Witnesses etc

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 01 September 12 19:28 BST (UK) »
This is what I have for Robert.  (Birth and Death. )

 Parents:   John Kennedy,​ Jane
   
name:   Robert Kennedy
gender:   Male
baptism/christening date:   28 Sep 1786
baptism/christening place:   PRESBYTERIAN,GLANTON,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
birth date:   17 Sep 1786
father's name:   John Kennedy
mother's name:   Jane

Name: KENNEDY, Robert
Registration district: Glendale
County: Northumberland
Year of registration: 1849
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Volume no: 25 Page no: 220

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 01 September 12 21:28 BST (UK) »
If you are happy that he is your Robert then I suggest you take a closer look at the John and Jane I mentioned in replies 3 and 5.
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 September 12 00:14 BST (UK) »
You are only quoting a death entry registration reference so I am assuming you don't have a copy of the death certificate nor details of the burial.   That being so, you cannot know how old the person was who died in 1849 hence my earlier point that without knowing his age at death/burial you can't estimate when he was born (unless there was something on his marriage that said he was from the parish of Glanton).

The 1841 census would strongly indicate that Robert was already dead by then as indicated earlier - and without knowing his age at death you can't know that the baptism you are quoting 1786 Glanton is him.

I note that you have a tree on A...y plus there are 2 others - the others show no details for Robert except for his marriage and baptism of son so clearly, at this point, they don't a) have his burial details and b) his circa birth date.   From what you are quoting you have no proof of his death/burial either and therefore cannot say when/where born.   Kennedy is a popular surname in both Scotland and Ireland and he could even have come from either of these places.   Just because he, his wife and son were in Newcastle upon Tyne from at least 1824 and that he likely died there too you can't assume he was born in Northumberland - he married in another county and could have come from anywhere.

I don't mean to sound negative but just trying to point out that you can't assume 'facts' you must have reasonable proof.

You really do need to find his burial (more than likely in Newcastle upon Tyne) and ascertain his approximate birth year.

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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 September 12 11:00 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone! Thank you all for replying so quickly  ;D  I will be reviewing them on Monday when I am able to go thru them properly.  Have a great weekend, and thanks again!!! Rhonda

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« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 October 17 06:19 BST (UK) »
UP-DATE... i wish there was a way to attach a photo, so that I can put the actual baptism parish record of William Dixon Kennedy and other items, but I guess text will have to do for now :(

William Dixon Kennedy
Christening
Dec. 26th, 1824.
William Dixon son of Robert & Harriet Kennedy.
Abode: Pilgrim St.
Occupation: Shoemaker.

Then I decided to go back to check on Maria's baptism record in Sheffield.
Kennedy, Maria (of Sheffield, born 1815-12-29).
Baptised April 7, 1816, by e goodwin at Sheffield Parish Church, Church Street, Sheffield.
Parents name(s) are harriett & robert (shoemaker). http://sheffieldindexers.com/ParishBaptismIndex.html

So that confirms they were in the York area at some point. The only Robert Kennedy and Harriet that I could find were in Kingston upon Hull...HOWEVER I did not have anything confirming it was actually them. Then someone found this for me :D  (And it was a copy of the ACTUAL register with their signatures, etc).
27 Nov 1814
Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire, England
Robert Kennedy
Occupation: Shoemaker
Residence: Hull Holy Trinity
Marriage date & place: 27 Nov 1814  Hull, Holy Trinity
By licence or by banns: B
Spouse:  Harriott Dixon
Spouse's residence: Hull Holy Trinity
Spouse's marital status: S
Father's first name(s) -    Spouse's father's first name(s) -
Witness 1 George Eamshaw
Witness 2 Ann Thompson County Yorkshire (East Riding)

So FINALLY something to tie them all together...with him being a shoemaker.

Robert seems to disappear after William Dixon's baptism in 1824.

***Next question...Does anyone know of a record set where I could find their address & if he had a business?

Thank you :D
Rhonda Kennedy