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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 22:01 BST (UK) »
 :) :) :)Hi willsy
been on family search like you gave me been looking at charles and elizabeth and their chidren at their christings found only so many ,william couldn,y be found found yet on the family cooper dec list has him born  1846 markfield but no christ
joseph coper 1837 no christing
caleb cooper no christing
james cooper  ,b, june 1848 markfield
also charles jun  sept 1850 no christ
alice geary cooper was
john cooper was son of Charles and Elizabeth
so would this mean that they would only been able to aford to do a few
their father was done by his dad has 1800 23rd of march  in  Barlestone leicester  which is near woodlands garden center just out side of  Market bosworth  ,so what i think is he thought he was born in Markfield, but born there and then came here straight after he was born ,and thats when he met elizabeth
I found charles dad with a Arthur cooper 
male
04 Apr 1811 Ashby de la zouch  leice

dont know much about  lousia  cooper either christ 24th jun 1814 ashby de la zouch
father thomas cooper mother mary  dont know any thing on him at all
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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 20 October 12 20:13 BST (UK) »
Can't help with baptisms, have you got this

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar about Caleb Cooper
Name:    Caleb Cooper
Probate Date:    1 Jun 1928
Death Date:    7 Feb 1928
Death Place:    Leicestershire, England
Registry:    Leicestershire, England

...of Newry House Croft Leicestershire died 7th February 1928 Probate Leicester 1 June to William Cooper grazier and John Hunt co-operative employee. Effects £2402 12s

Found a baptism, mother Abigail Green

Cooper, William (of Alma St, Brightside, born 1865-10-18).
     Baptised June 24, 1866, by Thos Hulme at St Thomas Church, Brightside.
     Parents name(s) are Abigail & Caleb (Pointman).


Thought this might be worth a look
Thornton

Thomas Simpson M MARR 10 FEB 1831 Louisa Cooper License Wit: William Cooper  Ann Simpson ?John Cooper John Geary Clerk
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 20 October 12 21:25 BST (UK) »
Found this 1841

1841 Census
SIMPSON, Louisa
MARKET BOSWORTH, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 603 folio 12/12 page 18

she is with Thomas Cooper grazier in Thornton
COOPER, Thomas    M    59    1782    Leicestershire    
COOPER, Hannah    F    20    1821    Leicestershire    
SIMPSON, Louisa    F    27    1814       Leicestershire    
SIMPSON, Louisa    F    7    1834       Leicestershire       
SIMPSON, Harriet    F    2    1839       Leicestershire        
MARSTON, John    M    60    1781             
STOVER, Sarah    F    18    1823

Am wondering if this is Thomas in Markfield with sister Ann who is with him also 1851

1841 Census
SIMPSON, Sarah
BLABY UNION, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 600 folio 19/9 page 10

as I searched for Sarah and Louisa and came up with these possibilities as he is a Thomas Simpson widowed with the 2 girls 1851 HO107 piece 2081 folio 414 page 8

1851 Census
SIMPSON, Harriot
LEICESTER, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 2088 folio 316 page 26
with Joseph and Mary A Allsop

Entry No.274,  DEC 28, 1846, after Banns
JOSEPH ALLSOP, full age, bach. FRAME SMITH, of CHURCH St, s. of JOHN ALLSOP, FARMER
MARY ANNE SIMPSON, full age, wid. of ALBION St, d. of EDWARD SMITH, FARMER
Wits: CHARLES GRANT,  ANN GRANT

occ matches for Joseph, looked for Harriet as there is a difference in age, hope it's on the right lines

Thornton
John Jones M MARR 11 SEP 1841 William Hannah Cooper Thomas Cooper
G: 29 silk manu, B: 21 gentleman's daughter Wit: Thomas Cooper & Sarah Goodrich Richard?

looks like John's residence is Islington so

1851 Census
JONES, Hannah
UXBRIDGE, Middlesex
HO107 piece 1697 folio 57 page 17
married to 'Jesse' so easily found Hannah from Thornton
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 20 October 12 22:27 BST (UK) »
IGI

parents:   Thos. Cooper,​ Mary
   
name:   Arthur Cooper
gender:   Male
baptism/christening date:   04 Apr 1811
baptism/christening place:   Ashby-de-la-Zouch, Leicester, England
father's name:   Thos. Cooper
mother's name:   Mary
indexing project (batch) number:   I04593-4
system origin:   England-EASy
source film number:   1482365

parents:   Thos. Cooper,​ Mary
christening:   08 Apr 1811   Thornton,​ Leicester,​ Leicester,​ England
residence:      Leicester,​ Leicester,​ England

1841 Mercer's Row with an Alfred Cooper 1824 bank clerk
1841 Census
COOPER, Arthur
NORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire
HO107 piece 814 folio 1/13 page 19    

parents:   Thos. Cooper,​ Mary
   
name:   Alfred Cooper
gender:   Male
baptism/christening date:   27 Jun 1827
baptism/christening place:   Thornton, Leicester, Leicester, England
father's name:   Thos. Cooper
mother's name:   Mary
indexing project (batch) number:   I06824-5
system origin:   England-EASy
source film number:   1482399

1851 Census
COOPER, Arthur
NORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire
HO107 piece 1740 folio 212 page 31
Arthur from Thornton

Arthur COOPER otp, (Mercers Row), bachelor, of full age, draper, father Thomas farmer
Mary Ann Mayor otp, (Market Square), spinster, of full age, father Edward Lewis Mayor, Innkeeper
1844 2-Jun Northampton All Saints

1851 Census
COOPER, Alfred
CLIFTON, Gloucestershire
HO107 piece 1952 folio 387 page 43
Alfred with brother James

COOPER, James Newbury
Lutterworth 1848  Oct-Nov-Dec
Martha Goodrick

there's refs to him marrying a Sarah Ward 1840 9th Oct Sileby

When James dies he mentions Rev Charles James Cooper, James as Gentleman

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar about James Newberry Cooper
Name:    James Newberry Cooper
Probate Date:    7 Jan 1893
Death Date:    3 Dec 1892
Death Place:    Staffordshire, England
Registry:    Lichfield


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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 20 October 12 23:41 BST (UK) »
First marriage
COOPER, James Newborry
Sarah Ward Barrow Upon Soar Oct 1840
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #32 on: Monday 22 October 12 12:09 BST (UK) »
 :) :) :)Hi willsy
now tyring to find john elliotts parents he married Alice geary cooper  dec 1858  in mrk bos rd he was born 1826 whitwick leice and died march 1907 in mrk bos rd

more on alice she was a seamer

more on john
occupation 1861 ag lab :1871 stone quayymen 1881 he cant be found 1891 Ag lab 1901 farmer
res 1861  west lane cottage stanton 1871 still in stanton :1891in the lane ,stanton 1901 stone quarry lodge ,stanton
childen od alice  cooper and john are
thomas elliott,b, 1853 markfield
samuel elliott ,b, 1856 Stanton
john william elliott ,b, 1862 Stanton
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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #33 on: Monday 22 October 12 20:57 BST (UK) »
Death for you

ELLIOTT    Alice    Market Bosworth    Leicestershire    1916    Oct-Nov-Dec age 83

There's also a son Joseph 1871 census age 7, thinking Thomas and Samuel are from John's previous marriage but I can't get on family search at the mo

1881 births out, ages are wrong but occupation is stone quarryman and grazier of 2 acres right address

Main Rd, Stanton Under Bardon no children
1881 Census
ELIOTT, Alice
MARKET BOSWORTH, Leicestershire
RG11 piece 3136 folio 92 page 20
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #34 on: Monday 22 October 12 21:07 BST (UK) »
Guessing this might be John married to Elizabeth born Whitwick ag lab

1851 Census
ELLIOTT, John
MARKET BOSWORTH, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 2083 folio 406 page 10

Thinks this would then probably be him in Thringstone parents Thomas and Sophia so matching father's name given on marriage

1841 Census
ELLIOTT, John
ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH, Leicestershire
HO107 piece 596 folio 20/26 page 11

Found this one Whitwick St John
John Elliott M MARR 5 DEC 1847 father Thomas Elizabeth Rollerton Benjamin Rollerton
g age 22 labourer and b age 21, both of Whitwick

as WOOLLERTON in bmd's so needs the original to be looked at, family search is down for site maintenance
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Thoams cooper and mary
« Reply #35 on: Monday 22 October 12 21:22 BST (UK) »
This is the only marriage I could find in Leicestershire

Breedon on the Hill   22-May   1820   B   
Thomas   Elliott   Newbold [Liberty]            
Sophia   Elliott   Newbold [Liberty]
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives